Could we have a formal RfC already, please?
> On Sep 13, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Also, "use the mailing list" is a problem in itself. Discussion should be > taking place publicly and on-wiki, not via email. Lack of transparency in > this process is a serious problem, and it is exacerbated by trying to push > discussions to a private medium. Discussions should take place openly and > in public. > > Todd > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 6:38 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Diane, >> >> If there will be a new discussion (and rightly so), what happens to the >> "harmonization sprint in Tunis on 20-22 September" mentioned by Nicole in >> her messages? >> I don't believe there will be much to harmonize between the new discussion >> with the community takes place. >> >> Best, >> Paulo >> >> >> Diane Ranville <dranville-...@wikimedia.org> escreveu no dia sexta, >> 13/09/2019 à(s) 14:20: >> >>> Hi Andy, >>> >>> Working groups are currently working off-wiki on a new version that will >>> soon be submitted to discussion again. Current versions are indeed not >>> being updated (I think they are not meant to be). >>> If you want to reach out directly to the diversity working group, I >> suggest >>> using their mailing list : wg2030-divers...@wikimedia.org >>> >>> Best, >>> Diane >>> (community strategy liaison for the french speaking community) >>> >>> < >>> >> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >>>> >>> Garanti >>> sans virus. www.avast.com >>> < >>> >> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >>>> >>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 2:28 PM Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The section remains unchanged. Is anyone planning to update it? >>>> >>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 14:29, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 19:48, Jeff Hawke <geoffey.ha...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett < >>>> a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke < >> geoffey.ha...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the >>>>>>>> recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This seems to be missing a rather crucial intermediate step; the >>> one >>>>>>> where the recommendations are accepted, or not, by the wider >>>> Wikimedia >>>>>>> community. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That step is not mentioned at >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_steps_will_take_place_in_the_next_few_months_to_put_a_decision-making_process_in_place >>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> But it is alluded to further down that page, albeit with an apparent >>>>> assumption that the recommendations will (all) be implemented: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_are_the_steps_that_will_take_place_between_recommendations_being_published_and_implementation >>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> In the light of Nicole's recent - and reassuring - email: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-August/093303.html >>>>> >>>>> perhaps that section could be updated to reflect that: >>>>> >>>>> "[recommendations not needing the legal authority of the board] >> will >>>>> then be further delegated to other community mechanisms and >>>>> structures for approval or further consultation." >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Andy Mabbett >>>>> @pigsonthewing >>>>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andy Mabbett >>>> @pigsonthewing >>>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
