All of the people you wished were there
_Who was invited ?
_Was it before or after the days of the conference was choosen ?
_What accomodation was given with the invitation ?

Le dim. 15 sept. 2019 à 23:07, Joseph Seddon <josephsed...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Before we call out individuals for lack of attendance publicly, I think we
> should remember that both volunteers and staff have lives outside of
> Wikimedia that include children, families and other commitments in life.
> They all come with complications. Sometimes things don't work out. There
> are tens of conferences every year at various scales all over the world.
> Many staff and volunteer board members will have recently just travelled to
> Wikimania and a strategy summit in Tunis. Attendance at these events is
> often to the detriment to people's personal lives to some degree.
>
> So please lets just be careful about how we talk about this and keep the
> above in mind.
>
> Regards
> Seddon
>
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 7:02 PM Thierry Coudray <tcoud...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "*The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking
> > contributors*".
> > This harsh sentence is the translation of a statement in French, I've
> just
> > said in a conversation a week ago at the Francophone Wikiconvention held
> > last weekend in Brussels. The statement may seem excessive, because the
> > Foundation does things for the Francophone community as well as for other
> > communities (and its website is fairly well translated into French). But
> it
> > reflected my feeling, shared by my three interlocutors, all non-French,
> > facing that no Foundation high-level members were present to this
> > Wikiconvention: no executive director, nor members of the Board, nor any
> > level-C staff. In an another conversation, where the subject came up over
> > again, someone said this absence was offensive. I do not know if it
> > reflects the majority of attendees feelings but with varying degrees, I
> > would said it was widely shared.
> >
> > In 2017, for the Francophone Wikiconvention in Strasbourg we had a very
> > quick visit of Katherine Maher, in 2018, a simple video message and in
> 2019
> > ... nothing. At the same time, the Francophone Wikiconvention has stepped
> > up with ever more participants, always more countries represented. This
> > year, it brought together more than 220 Francophones, Algerian, Belgian,
> > Beninese, Cameroonian, Canadian, French, Guinean, Ivorian, Swiss and
> > Tunisian contributors, and I may forget some, with varied and enriching
> > conferences and meetings. A huge success, very well organized by
> employees
> > but also by several volunteers, who dedicated time and energy. This
> > Wikiconvention and the projects and achievements submitted have shown the
> > French-speaking Wikimedia community vitality, which will continue to
> grow.
> > FYI, French is foreseen, thanks to Africa, to be the most rapidly growing
> > languages in the next twenty years and will be the mother tongue or the
> > language used for communication for more than 8% of the world's
> population
> > in thirty years' time. But my reaction would have been the same if I had
> > attended an Arabic, Chinese, Spanish, Swahili-speaking or any other
> > important languages Wikiconvention.
> >
> > So yes, this Wikiconvention is not in English. Fortunately, not all
> > Wikimedia meetings are in English. In a previous discussion on this
> mailing
> > list about the question of whether or not it is appropriate to continue
> > Wimania, one of the participants argued that unlike other Wikimedia
> > meetings, anyone could attend Wikmania. It may be obvious for those who
> > have English as a mother tongue or for Northern Europeans for whom
> English
> > is almost a second mother tongue but this is false: English is spoken
> only
> > by a small minority in the world, less than one human in six. So only one
> > human in six or seven could attend Wikimania or any other
> english-speaking
> > conferences or meetings (the case of the vast majority of global
> Wikimedia
> > conferences). I do not deny a common working language usefulness but a
> > Wikiconvention in French, as I hope other languages ones will be more to
> > come soon, allows all non-English speaking Francophones to participate in
> > the Wikimedia movement and above all, help them to meet our common goal
> of
> > spread freeknowledge.The movement talks a lot about its efforts to
> overcome
> > differents gaps (gender, LGBT,...) and it's rightly pointed, these topics
> > are important. But it simply forget the language gap and the almost
> > exclusive use of English excludes a very large majority.
> >
> > So why no high level Foundation members in Brussels ?
> > I was told that Valerie D'Costa, the new Chief of Community Engagement,
> > should initially be there but finally told she will not. But then, no
> other
> > member could then replace her and why only one Foundation representant
> > given the part of French language in the WM projects ? Perhaps no
> > Foundation
> > Board or high level member speaks French or feels she/he speaks good
> > enough.
> > But with more than 220 attendants at the FWC, it would have been easy to
> > find volonteers with a good level of English to provide simultaneous
> > translation in discussions with other non-English speaking participants
> or
> > to
> > translate conferences.A higher-level representation would have helped the
> > Foundation top level to gain more insight into Wikimedian French-speaking
> > community and enabled this community to have a direct access to the
> > Foundation, like in Wikimania. That would have helped bridging the gap
> > between these "two worlds". Because this gap is real. In the 2011 Finance
> > Meeting in Paris, during workshops where a Board member was in each
> > group (Jan-Bart
> > de Vreede for mine), me and another non english-speaking chapter head
> > (she/he
> > will recognize her/himself) had made the comment that we had the
> impression
> > in our relation with the Foundation of "*colliding with an Anglo-Saxon
> > wall*".
> > I notice that despite more Foundation staff diversity in recent years,
> > French speaking organizations would probably still have the same feeling
> > and clearly many French-speaking wikimedians feel that gap.
> >
> > It is sad that the Foundation, which is very demanding with Francophone
> > chapters, does not apply itself to these demands with the Francophone
> > community. FYI the next French-speaking Wikconvention will be held on WE
> 31
> > october/1 November 2019 in Tunis. Save the date.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > --
> > Thierry
> >
> > PS.  Assas, Diane and Benoit (for those I met) don't take this personaly.
> > Your presence was appreciate and you avoid the Foundation relationship
> with
> > French Community of a total Bérézina as we said in France.
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