Merci Delphine! Et moi je travaillais donc je n’ai pas pu faire les 
pre-learning days.
Est-ce que ta présentation est en ligne? 
Bien à toi, 
Natacha 

> Le 17 sept. 2019 à 15:14, Delphine Ménard <dmen...@wikimedia.org> a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I participated in the pre-conference in Brussels this year, to which I was
> invited to give a workshop about grants. I decided not to stay the whole 4
> days because of personal commitments too.
> 
> Mais si tu as des questions sur les grants, je suis là :)
> 
> Best,
> 
> Delphine
> 
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 7:04 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Katherine,
>> We will be happy to see you in Tunis!
>> Along with other reps of the WMF I hope, with the possibility of booking
>> appointments with :
>> - T&S
>> - outreach
>> - grant rep
>> - tech rep
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Nattes à chat
>> 
>>> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 23:54, Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org> a
>> écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just a quick note that I was invited to Wikiconvention on Friday 9 August
>>> by Wikimedia France. On Monday 12 August (delayed by travel to
>> Wikimania!)
>>> I sent a note expressing my regrets, as I had a family wedding to attend
>>> during that same weekend as the Convention. I also asked at the same time
>>> to be notified as soon as the 2020 Tunis dates were confirmed, so that I
>> or
>>> other members of the Foundation's leadership team are able to plan to
>>> attend (and I have already put those dates in my calendar).
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, as all volunteers know, sometimes personal/family
>>> commitments do preclude travel. I similarly cannot attend the CEE
>>> Conference due to a personal commitment this year. Sometimes there are
>> also
>>> scheduling conflicts: This year the German-speaking WikiCon gathering is
>>> the same weekend as WikiArabia, and WikiCon North America is the same
>>> weekend as WikiIndaba. This means there's always going to be a sense of
>>> missing something important!
>>> 
>>> I would also agree with what Leila shared. I was very appreciative to be
>>> invited to Wikiconvention, WikiArabia, and WikiIndaba this year. But I
>> want
>>> to respect that not every community feels that it is the place of the
>>> Foundation's ED to participate or speak at their events, and that's
>> totally
>>> fine. I don't think people always need to hear from me, but I am always
>>> very happy to support any event in which I am invited!
>>> 
>>> Katherine
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:25 PM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <
>>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for sharing this Leila! This is of course a useful angle.
>>>> Nattes
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 16 sept. 2019 à 21:51, Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A different angle for looking at the question of WMF staff attending
>>>>> community events which may help this conversation:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a staff member (and acknowledging that my position is none of the
>>>>> ones Thierry called out in their first email on this thread), with the
>>>>> exception of a few community events, I very much hesitate to attend a
>>>>> local community-run event unless the specific community, or at least
>>>>> one person from that community, has specifically invited me or told me
>>>>> I should consider attending. There is definitely some feeling of
>>>>> fear/self-consciousness on my end about entering in a place where I
>>>>> may not be welcome, where I impose my presence to others, or entering
>>>>> conversations where my expertise may not be valued/considered because
>>>>> I'm carrying a history which may or may not even be really mine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sharing my feelings and the way I think about whether to attend a
>>>>> local event or not here not to ask for empathy in my specific case
>>>>> (which is btw, always welcomed:) but to say that there may be other
>>>>> staff members like me, especially those who have joined WMF more
>>>>> recently, who may be in the same boat. My recommendation would be for
>>>>> the local communities to signal to the specific people which they want
>>>>> in their meetings that they're welcome to attend. At least this way
>>>>> you will know the person has felt invited/welcomed and will have a
>>>>> higher chance to decide to attend.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To be clear: I'm not saying WMF not attending this specific event
>>>>> would have been addressed by the above. I don't know. I'm just
>>>>> explaining one of the reasons this may have happened, and providing a
>>>>> suggestion to address this specific reason.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Leila
>>>>> --
>>>>> Leila Zia
>>>>> Principal Research Scientist, Head of Research
>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:20 AM Philip Kopetzky
>>>>> <philip.kopet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gereon, you clearly forget the whole Mediaviewer saga and attendance
>> of
>>>> WMF
>>>>>> staff at the following WikiCon in Cologne ;-) But that was a long time
>>>> ago
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 01:53, Gereon Kalkuhl <gkalk...@freenet.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Since 2010 we have the WikiCon for the German language communities
>> with
>>>>>>> more than 300 attendants. I don't remember that the WMF has sent
>> anyone
>>>>>>> to these conventions. And why should they? It's all in German, the
>>>>>>> communities are established and have strong chapters. I suppose the
>>>> same
>>>>>>> applies to the French language communites. The WMF visits emerging
>>>>>>> communities, to learn about them and to help them by transfering
>>>>>>> knowlege. They visit the CEE meetings, they visit Wiki Indabas. I
>> don't
>>>>>>> think that the WMF is neglecting big communities, it rather makes
>> sense
>>>>>>> that when sending employes across half the planet they check before,
>>>>>>> what benefits the conferences have from their attendance and what
>>>>>>> benefits their attendance bring to the particpants of the conference.
>>>>>>> Cheers, Gereon
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2019 um 20:02 schrieb Thierry Coudray:
>>>>>>>> "*The Foundation does not care so much of the French-speaking
>>>>>>> contributors*".
>>>>>>>> This harsh sentence is the translation of a statement in French,
>> I've
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> said in a conversation a week ago at the Francophone Wikiconvention
>>>> held
>>>>>>>> last weekend in Brussels. The statement may seem excessive, because
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Foundation does things for the Francophone community as well as for
>>>> other
>>>>>>>> communities (and its website is fairly well translated into French).
>>>> But
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> reflected my feeling, shared by my three interlocutors, all
>>>> non-French,
>>>>>>>> facing that no Foundation high-level members were present to this
>>>>>>>> Wikiconvention: no executive director, nor members of the Board, nor
>>>> any
>>>>>>>> level-C staff. In an another conversation, where the subject came up
>>>> over
>>>>>>>> again, someone said this absence was offensive. I do not know if it
>>>>>>>> reflects the majority of attendees feelings but with varying
>> degrees,
>>>> I
>>>>>>>> would said it was widely shared.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In 2017, for the Francophone Wikiconvention in Strasbourg we had a
>>>> very
>>>>>>>> quick visit of Katherine Maher, in 2018, a simple video message and
>> in
>>>>>>> 2019
>>>>>>>> ... nothing. At the same time, the Francophone Wikiconvention has
>>>> stepped
>>>>>>>> up with ever more participants, always more countries represented.
>>>> This
>>>>>>>> year, it brought together more than 220 Francophones, Algerian,
>>>> Belgian,
>>>>>>>> Beninese, Cameroonian, Canadian, French, Guinean, Ivorian, Swiss and
>>>>>>>> Tunisian contributors, and I may forget some, with varied and
>>>> enriching
>>>>>>>> conferences and meetings. A huge success, very well organized by
>>>>>>> employees
>>>>>>>> but also by several volunteers, who dedicated time and energy. This
>>>>>>>> Wikiconvention and the projects and achievements submitted have
>> shown
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> French-speaking Wikimedia community vitality, which will continue to
>>>>>>> grow.
>>>>>>>> FYI, French is foreseen, thanks to Africa, to be the most rapidly
>>>> growing
>>>>>>>> languages in the next twenty years and will be the mother tongue or
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> language used for communication for more than 8% of the world's
>>>>>>> population
>>>>>>>> in thirty years' time. But my reaction would have been the same if I
>>>> had
>>>>>>>> attended an Arabic, Chinese, Spanish, Swahili-speaking or any other
>>>>>>>> important languages Wikiconvention.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So yes, this Wikiconvention is not in English. Fortunately, not all
>>>>>>>> Wikimedia meetings are in English. In a previous discussion on this
>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>> list about the question of whether or not it is appropriate to
>>>> continue
>>>>>>>> Wimania, one of the participants argued that unlike other Wikimedia
>>>>>>>> meetings, anyone could attend Wikmania. It may be obvious for those
>>>> who
>>>>>>>> have English as a mother tongue or for Northern Europeans for whom
>>>>>>> English
>>>>>>>> is almost a second mother tongue but this is false: English is
>> spoken
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> by a small minority in the world, less than one human in six. So
>> only
>>>> one
>>>>>>>> human in six or seven could attend Wikimania or any other
>>>>>>> english-speaking
>>>>>>>> conferences or meetings (the case of the vast majority of global
>>>>>>> Wikimedia
>>>>>>>> conferences). I do not deny a common working language usefulness
>> but a
>>>>>>>> Wikiconvention in French, as I hope other languages ones will be
>> more
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> come soon, allows all non-English speaking Francophones to
>>>> participate in
>>>>>>>> the Wikimedia movement and above all, help them to meet our common
>>>> goal
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> spread freeknowledge.The movement talks a lot about its efforts to
>>>>>>> overcome
>>>>>>>> differents gaps (gender, LGBT,...) and it's rightly pointed, these
>>>> topics
>>>>>>>> are important. But it simply forget the language gap and the almost
>>>>>>>> exclusive use of English excludes a very large majority.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So why no high level Foundation members in Brussels ?
>>>>>>>> I was told that Valerie D'Costa, the new Chief of Community
>>>> Engagement,
>>>>>>>> should initially be there but finally told she will not. But then,
>> no
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> member could then replace her and why only one Foundation
>> representant
>>>>>>>> given the part of French language in the WM projects ? Perhaps no
>>>>>>> Foundation
>>>>>>>> Board or high level member speaks French or feels she/he speaks good
>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>>> But with more than 220 attendants at the FWC, it would have been
>> easy
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> find volonteers with a good level of English to provide simultaneous
>>>>>>>> translation in discussions with other non-English speaking
>>>> participants
>>>>>>> or to
>>>>>>>> translate conferences.A higher-level representation would have
>> helped
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Foundation top level to gain more insight into Wikimedian
>>>> French-speaking
>>>>>>>> community and enabled this community to have a direct access to the
>>>>>>>> Foundation, like in Wikimania. That would have helped bridging the
>> gap
>>>>>>>> between these "two worlds". Because this gap is real. In the 2011
>>>> Finance
>>>>>>>> Meeting in Paris, during workshops where a Board member was in each
>>>>>>>> group (Jan-Bart
>>>>>>>> de Vreede for mine), me and another non english-speaking chapter
>> head
>>>>>>> (she/he
>>>>>>>> will recognize her/himself) had made the comment that we had the
>>>>>>> impression
>>>>>>>> in our relation with the Foundation of "*colliding with an
>> Anglo-Saxon
>>>>>>> wall*".
>>>>>>>> I notice that despite more Foundation staff diversity in recent
>> years,
>>>>>>>> French speaking organizations would probably still have the same
>>>> feeling
>>>>>>>> and clearly many French-speaking wikimedians feel that gap.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It is sad that the Foundation, which is very demanding with
>>>> Francophone
>>>>>>>> chapters, does not apply itself to these demands with the
>> Francophone
>>>>>>>> community. FYI the next French-speaking Wikconvention will be held
>> on
>>>> WE
>>>>>>> 31
>>>>>>>> october/1 November 2019 in Tunis. Save the date.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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