Does anyone know whether the screen allowed a user to click through? On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 1:25 PM Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A screenshot has been uploaded to > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMF_global_climate_strike_banner_2019.png > . > > Unfortunately, though web.archive.org has snapshots of the website, > these do not appear to render the banner as it displayed in a browser > on the day. > > Fae > -- > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 09:30, Alexander N Krassotkin > <krassot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone have a screenshot of the page with this banner? Or a > > link to an online archive? Or at least the banner itself? > > > > sasha. > > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 9:54 PM Dennis During <dcdur...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > I couldn't get onto WP or en.wikt shortly after I had heard about the > MW > > > participation in the strike. I jumped to an apparently wrong > conclusion. > > > Sorry. > > > > > > I am glad that the availability of free knowledge for all was not > disrupted. > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 3:19 AM Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > As far as I can tell, only the Foundation wiki is showing the strike > > > > message. That particular one is pretty much theirs to do as they > like with. > > > > > > > > If they started doing that to any other wikis without their > agreement, > > > > well, then we'd have a problem. But so long as it's only the WMF wiki > > > > itself, I don't see the issue. > > > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 6:45 PM Dennis During <dcdur...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am profoundly disappointed that WMF employees don't value the > mission. > > > > > Instead they seem to simply follow fashion and force users and > volunteers > > > > > to follow their fashionable methods of advocacy. They use their > monopoly > > > > > power to deny free access to the world's knowledge that many > thousands of > > > > > volunteers have diligently assembled. This time it is to show > solidarity > > > > > with environmental advocates. What will it be next time? > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 15:35 Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > While I appreciate the sentiment, I wouldn't have put the > > > > > > wikimediafoundation.org domain "on strike", just as I wouldn't > have > > > > put > > > > > a > > > > > > government agency's website "on strike". I think that some > discussion > > > > of > > > > > > climate change would be fine, but I think that WMF's action here > is > > > > > > somewhat strange. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that asking about the climate impact of staff travel is > fine. > > > > > > However, I would also include questions about travel for > Wikimedia > > > > events > > > > > > more broadly. I believe that the WMF Board has indicated support > for > > > > > trying > > > > > > to reduce the Wikiverse's contributions to climate change. As > has been > > > > > > mentioned in this thread, WMF released a report yesterday > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-September/093519.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the subject of sustainability. While I have not read it, I > think > > > > that > > > > > > measuring and attempting to reduce reduce negative environmental > > > > impacts > > > > > > from Wikimedia activities is good, including negative > environmental > > > > > impacts > > > > > > from travel. However, I also think that there are some benefits > to > > > > morale > > > > > > and communications from in person meetings, so I would be > reluctant to > > > > > > eliminate travel and conferences entirely. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that it's fine to ask whether WMF senior management is > > > > practicing > > > > > > what they preach. However, Fae, I feel that your tone in this > thread is > > > > > > excessively harsh on this point. I think that you could ask very > > > > similar > > > > > > questions with a tone that is calmer. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the subject of environmental sustainability, my main concern > at this > > > > > > time is the banner on the WMF website which I feel is somewhat > weird > > > > and > > > > > is > > > > > > inconsistent with WMF's goal of being "essential > infrastructure". Do we > > > > > > want "essential infrastructure" to go on strike, particularly > when that > > > > > > infrastructure is supposed to be for an organization that > provides > > > > public > > > > > > service and supports the community in publishing reliable > scientific > > > > > > information? I think not. However, I think that the banner is > > > > regrettably > > > > > > consistent with the series of surprising decisions from WMF in > the past > > > > > few > > > > > > months. That is, to me, the most concerning element in all of > this. If > > > > > WMF > > > > > > wants to be a public service infrastructure provider then I > think that > > > > it > > > > > > should act like one. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pine > > > > > > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dennis C. 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