+1 to Mike's approach. An *option* for carbon offsets seems worthwhile. A *requirement* seems potentially at odds with our desire to be inclusive and accessible. And I agree that something specifically tailored to a community built around making information accessible would be a much better fit.
-Pete -- [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:21 PM Mike Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote: > I would suggest taking a different approach. Paying for carbon offsets > does not further Wikimedia’s goals. It is, at best, a shortcut to brownie > points as measured by other organisations. Requiring volunteers to pay > extra for carbon offsets is doubly worse as they can’t then spend that > money on their other Wikimedia activities. > > Instead, perhaps we could invest in projects that will improve our > coverage of climate change? Imagine the impact that improving our freely > licensed information about climate change could make. Good/featured > articles about the organisations that have been named here already? More > referenced information in the articles on this topic? More images to > illustrate those articles? If that doesn’t make a difference, then we have > to answer a rather more fundamental question about our impact on the world. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > On 11 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Bence Damokos <bdamo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > In case it is interesting, for the tenders at my workplace that require > > offsetting, we include this requirement: > > > > " > > Carbon offsetting will be achieved by means of projects of the following > > type: CDM (Clean Development Mechanism), JI (Joint Implementation) or VER > > (Voluntary Emissions Reduction), all certified as 'Gold Standard' by > bodies > > accredited by the UNFCCC (United Nations Framework Convention on Climate > > Change)." > > > > In practice, https://offset.climateneutralnow.org/ is a place I've used > > personally where one can easily find projects meeting the above criteria. > > > > For more context, to save a bit of Google-ing: > > > > CDM projects are those assessed and verified by the United Nations > > Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) in developing countries > > which can sell certified emission reduction (CER) credits, each one > > equivalent to one ton of CO2. These CERs can be traded and sold and are > > currently used by industrialized countries to meet a part of their > emission > > reduction targets under the Kyoto Protocol(link is external) > > < > http://unfccc.int/kyoto_protocol/mechanisms/clean_development_mechanism/items/2718.php > > > > . > > > > Gold Standard projects are CDM or voluntary offset projects giving an > > additional guarantee concerning sustainable development benefits. These > are > > projects awarded the 'Gold Standard'(link is external) > > <http://www.goldstandard.org/> quality label by a Swiss-based non-profit > > foundation, supported by a group of 50 NGOs.[1] > > > > > > > > [1] From > > > https://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/funding/faqs-toolkit-and-glossary/frequently-asked-questions-general_en > > > > Best regards, > > Bence > > > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2019, 22:55 Fæ, <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Any general questions like catering for virtual attendees can be > >> raised at the talk page for the 2020 LGBT+ conference.[1] The > >> conference is at the proposal stage with funding yet to be agreed with > >> the WMF. The proposers will be happy to receive feedback and respond > >> to questions. > >> > >> If no previous conference within our wider Wikimedia movement has used > >> carbon offset projects to benefit its green footprint, that's an > >> interesting fact to confirm as this may well be a great opportunity to > >> try this out. > >> > >> Links > >> 1. > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Conference/Kawayashu/Queering_Wikipedia > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Fae > >> > >> On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 20:47, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> This has nothing to do with how green WMF operations might be. It has > >>>> to do with the greener choices /we/ as volunteers can make for /our/ > >>>> conferences. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Since a fortnight ago you were haranguing* the WMF for using too much > air > >>> travel and lacking "any actual measurable commitment to picking up a > >>> telephone, holding a video conference, or holding a VR conference > >> session", > >>> it will be interesting to see what solutions you can come up with for > >> this > >>> conference you're organising. Did you consider the options other than > an > >>> in-person conference that you recommended the WMF adopt, out of > interest? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> * > >>> > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-09-30/News_from_the_WMF > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > >> -- > >> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
