I don't believe it implies that. As with many things legal, the answer re:
derivatives is likely "it depends".

R.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 10:30 PM Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminik...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> Pardon me if I've missed something, but that seems to imply, but not
> directly state, that AI training is a derivative work; could you clarify
> that?
>
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Ryan Merkley <rmerk...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > [My comments are my own, and don’t reflect or suggest any official
> position from WMF]
> >
> > The NBC story linked below come out about a year ago. Around the same
> time, when I was CEO at Creative Commons, we published a statement and
> updated FAQs that attempted to respond to questions being asked about
> permitted uses and attribution related to the licenses.
> >
> > CC’s statement (March 2019) is here:
> https://creativecommons.org/2019/03/13/statement-on-shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/
> <
> https://creativecommons.org/2019/03/13/statement-on-shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/
> >
> > The FAQs are here:
> https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses <
> https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses>
> >
> > r.
> >
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> >
> >> On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There are several reports of face recognition going mainstream, often
> >> in less than optimum circumstances, and often violating copyright and
> >> licenses
> >>
> >>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/technology/clearview-privacy-facial-recognition.html
> >>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/facial-recognition-s-dirty-little-secret-millions-online-photos-scraped-n981921
> >> https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2019/01/diversity-in-faces/
> >>
> >> In my opinion building a model for face recognition is a derived work,
> >> and as such must credit the photographers. That pose a real problem
> >> when the photographers counts in the millions and billions. Even a 1px
> >> fine print would be troublesome!
> >>
> >> What is the official stance on this? Is it a copyright infringement or
> >> not, does the license(s) cover the case or not?
> >>
> >> John Erling Blad
> >> /jeblad
> >>
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