I don't believe it implies that. As with many things legal, the answer re: derivatives is likely "it depends".
R. On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 10:30 PM Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminik...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for that. > > Pardon me if I've missed something, but that seems to imply, but not > directly state, that AI training is a derivative work; could you clarify > that? > > > > On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Ryan Merkley <rmerk...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > [My comments are my own, and don’t reflect or suggest any official > position from WMF] > > > > The NBC story linked below come out about a year ago. Around the same > time, when I was CEO at Creative Commons, we published a statement and > updated FAQs that attempted to respond to questions being asked about > permitted uses and attribution related to the licenses. > > > > CC’s statement (March 2019) is here: > https://creativecommons.org/2019/03/13/statement-on-shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/ > < > https://creativecommons.org/2019/03/13/statement-on-shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/ > > > > The FAQs are here: > https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses < > https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses> > > > > r. > > > > _____________________________ > > > > Ryan Merkley (he/him) > > Chief of Staff, Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > > > rmerk...@wikimedia.org <mailto:rmerk...@wikimedia.org> > > @ryanmerkley <https://twitter.com/ryanmerkley> > > +1 416 802 0662 > > > >> On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> There are several reports of face recognition going mainstream, often > >> in less than optimum circumstances, and often violating copyright and > >> licenses > >> > >> > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/technology/clearview-privacy-facial-recognition.html > >> > https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/facial-recognition-s-dirty-little-secret-millions-online-photos-scraped-n981921 > >> https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2019/01/diversity-in-faces/ > >> > >> In my opinion building a model for face recognition is a derived work, > >> and as such must credit the photographers. That pose a real problem > >> when the photographers counts in the millions and billions. Even a 1px > >> fine print would be troublesome! > >> > >> What is the official stance on this? Is it a copyright infringement or > >> not, does the license(s) cover the case or not? > >> > >> John Erling Blad > >> /jeblad > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
