Hi Quim and Paulo, Like anything we lose as a movement (see also Wikipedia Zero), I am very sorry for this decision, for those who worked and for those who were comfortable with the platform. I was not, as I am not with Phabricator (despite being a developer). It's a matter of habits and preferences, of course, so my opinion has the same value as someone else who loves them. I don't really know the whole situation (expenses, number of users etc), but I think we shouldn't have the same philosophy as Google, which lets go of products that - not only from a commercial point of view, but in terms of use - they didn't have the turnout expected. We are different and I may be sentimental, but I expect that we keep the projects standing even if we have only one user.
Camelia -- *Camelia Boban* *| Java EE Developer |* *Affiliations Committee - **Wikimedia Foundation* Diversity WG for Wikimedia Strategy 2030 *Interwiki Women <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_Women_Collaboration> | **Wiki Loves Sport <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Sport> | Wiki Loves Fashion <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Fashion>* WMIT <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Italia> - WMSE <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Sverige> - WMAR <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Argentina> - WMCH <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH> Member M. +39 3383385545 [email protected] *Aissa Technologies* <http://aissatechnologies.eu/>* | *Twitter <https://twitter.com/cameliaboban> *|* *LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/camelia-boban-31319122>* *Wikipedia <https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Camelia.boban> **| **WikiDonne UG <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiDonne>* | *WikiDonne Project <https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progetto:WikiDonne> * Il giorno mar 18 feb 2020 alle ore 11:44 Paulo Santos Perneta < [email protected]> ha scritto: > Hello Quim, > > I knew this was a possibility, but it still is a big surprise for me that > the WMF has not recognized the enormous value and potential of Wikimedia > Space, which was a space incredibly more friendlier and easier to use than > anything I've ever seen onwiki. As we discussed last November in > WikiIndaba, it only needed to be somehow connected to the Wikimedia > Projects, so that we could get the notifications there - as a standalone > project it's very difficult to follow, since apart from real life we have > mail, social networks, chats - and the wikimedia projects constantly > draining attention and competing for time. > > But... All the investment, all the information shared there, will be lost? > > I suspect that after this last debacle of Wikimedia Space, it will be > considerably more difficult for people to embark in more new WMF > adventures. It was already difficult with this one. > > Bad decisions at top level -> lots of money wasted, valuable WMF staff time > and expertise wasted... and a lot of volunteer time and expertise, and > community goodwill burned for nothing, like if we have plenty of that. > > Best, > Paulo > > Quim Gil <[email protected]> escreveu no dia terça, 18/02/2020 à(s) > 10:31: > > > Last year, the Wikimedia Foundation launched Wikimedia Space to > experiment > > with new ways to connect volunteers, increase movement participation, and > > showcase community stories. While we remain committed to this important > > goal, based on lessons learned through the Space prototype, the > Foundation > > has decided to close Discuss Space. The Space blog, which continues to > fill > > a need to share news for the movement by the movement, will continue in a > > new home. Please continue to submit community-focused stories [1], so > that > > we may share them with the movement. > > > > To learn more about the next steps, check the full announcement at > > https://space.wmflabs.org/2020/02/18/next-steps-on-wikimedia-space/ > > > > We have learned a lot from this initiative and want to thank all Space > > users [2] for their time and contributions. We also invite everyone > > interested in documenting lessons learned and discussing next steps to > join > > us in taking this effort even further, either at the About Wikimedia > Space > > category in Discuss [3] or the Space talk page in Meta [4]. > > > > [1] > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Space/Editorial_guidelines#How_to_get_started > > [2] https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/u?period=all > > [3] https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/c/about-wikimedia-space/2 > > [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Space > > > > -- > > Quim Gil (he/him) > > Senior Manager of Community Relations @ Wikimedia Foundation > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Qgil-WMF > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
