Hi Chuck,

since this is hopefully a less busy season of the year, have the internal
discussions yielded anything that might help in breaking these numbers down
a little bit more? :-)

Best,
Philip

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 03:59, Chuck Roslof <cros...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Thanks for sharing your thoughts about how this information could be useful
> for local affiliates and communities. We'll discuss internally to see if we
> might be able to share more information in the future in order to achieve
> those benefits in ways that don't raise legal concerns or create excessive
> overhead for our fundraising team. We're entering into the busiest time of
> the year for online fundraising, though, so it'll be at least a few months
> before we are able to address the question internally.
>
>  - Chuck
>
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> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:27 AM Philip Kopetzky <philip.kopet...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Chuck for digging out that old email, it does explain why this
> isn't
> > done for every country.
> > Chris and Sandra have a point though, because this can't be a legal issue
> > for most European countries for example. In return, the local
> organisations
> > and communities would benefit from an added layer of feedback based on
> > their work.
> >
> > Furthermore, how and how much we fundraise will be one of the important
> > talking points when implementing the recommendations, especially to set a
> > benchmark to evaluate if involving local organisations in the fundraising
> > process actually works or not.
> >
> > Best,
> > Philip
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 09:38, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland <
> > rient...@wikimedia.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with Chris.
> > > Furthermore: Wikimedia Nederland, like all chapters, puts a lot of
> effort
> > > in raising awareness of and support for the Wikimedia projects.  I
> would
> > > really like to know if these efforts 'pay off'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sandra Rientjes
> > > Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
> > >
> > > tel.    (+31) (0)30 3200238 (ma, di, do)
> > > mob. (+31) (0)6  31786379 (wo, vrij)
> > >
> > > www.wikimedia.nl
> > >
> > >
> > > Mariaplaats 3
> > > 3511 LH  Utrecht
> > >
> > >
> > > Op do 3 okt. 2019 om 09:13 schreef Chris Keating <
> > > chriskeatingw...@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > >
> > > > Hi Chuck,
> > > >
> > > > The reasons the question keeps getting asked is because it was never
> > > really
> > > > answered in the first place.
> > > >
> > > > The only good reason I can think of for not publishing country-level
> > data
> > > > is that there are some countries where that could create risks to the
> > WMF
> > > > or individuals because they're places where giving donations to a US
> > > > nonprofit is either illegal or politically risky.
> > > >
> > > > However that doesn't apply to most countries, so why not publish the
> > data
> > > > for most of the world?
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:34 AM Chuck Roslof <cros...@wikimedia.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Philip,
> > > > >
> > > > > We do not publish country-level fundraising numbers. My colleague
> > > Stephen
> > > > > discussed why on this list a few years back, so rather than
> > > paraphrasing
> > > > > his previous email I'll just provide a link to it:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085576.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Chuck
> > > > >
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> > > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:05 AM Philip Kopetzky <
> > > > philip.kopet...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Patricia,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a country-by-country
> > > > > breakdown
> > > > > > of the donations as well?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > > Philip
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena <pp...@wikimedia.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report
> > > > > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report>.
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> > > > > > > strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising
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