Agreed that office hours are a nice idea, although

1. For privacy reasons,I don't think that they need to be on video.
Sue had them on IRC. In the Wikimedia Cafe several of us use audio
only.

2. I'm digesting what Maggie said about the incidents of last July.
I'm not sure that the version of events that was communicated to her
captures how I would describe the multiple bad decisions that
happened, and I'm not inclined to believe that the problems can be
summed up as poor communications. I don't mean to put words in
Maggie's mouth, and I don't think that she was trying to provide a
comprehensive view of her briefing, but I also have concerns regarding
what I heard in her summary, and I would encourage Maggie to probe
extensively into what happened while she was on leave.

I don't know what all was going on inside of WMF, but I would have
wanted an outsider -- that is, not someone inside of WMF -- to review
the actions of the staff, similar to how police departments are
sometimes reviewed by outside agencies after high profile incidents,
and I would want the report from that review to be public. Given my
perspective on what happened, I think that at least one WMF staff
person probably should have been demoted or fired, and perhaps more
than one, up to and including Katherine. However, I don't have enough
information to decide what accountability measures should have been
taken. I would have more faith in the integrity of WMF if there had
been an outside review as I describe here, including public
accountability for the actions of individual staff, much as we do on
English Wikipedia for administrators and functionaries.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 6:30 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l
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>
> Yes thank you very much. I really liked the sincerity and the straight to the 
> point amswers. It feels great to be listened at and given sincere answers.
>
> Make this call a best practice, it rocked.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Nattes à chat
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>
> > Le 4 juin 2020 à 22:16, Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > True, (because of connectivity issues I was disconnected for some time).
> > Thanks Maggie for answering the questions and clarifying things. All the
> > best and good wishes.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tito Dutta
> > Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
> > me over email or phone call.
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 01:17, Aron Manning <aronmanni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thank you, Maggie, Elena and Nick for this meeting!
> >>
> >> The event was very well organized on the first try, focused and
> >> informative.
> >> Special thanks to Maggie for tirelessly answering all the questions and
> >> giving insight to the wide spectrum of challenges.
> >>
> >> It was great to hear that transparency will be an important part of the
> >> processes to be developed and that the communities will be involved in
> >> working out the details. I think this is going in the right direction to
> >> establish trust and cooperation with the communities and a mutually
> >> agreeable outcome.
> >>
> >> Thank you to all participants and I hope there will be more meetings as
> >> this project progresses!
> >>
> >>
> >> Aron
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 23:24, Maggie Dennis <mden...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We will post notes from the meeting, with the identity of question-askers
> >>> anonymized, afterward. Questions can be submitted on Telegram [1], on IRC
> >>> [2] or in the YouTube Chat or by email in advance to
> >> answ...@wikimedia.org
> >>> (To make sure they are presented during this meeting, please use “Trust &
> >>> Safety” as the subject line.)
> >>>
> >>>
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