What, you are really using a Wikimedia funded email list to promote
biological racism? That's ... not acceptable behaviour.

Go read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism.

Fae

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 14:37, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Feel free to explain how the appearance of race differences is not defined
> by genetics. I have absolutely no problem accepting that people are
> different, and that some people may even be better adapted to
> the environment than me. ;)
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 3:32 PM Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No, we do not call other Wikipedians "Negroid" because of their
> > appearance meeting a racist theory published in the 1930s.
> >
> > Or were you trying to say something else, other than defending
> > "scientific racism" on this public list?
> >
> > Fae
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 14:25, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not sure it is wise to try to refute differences between humans,
> > > whether we call it race or something else, it is simply too easy to point
> > > out the differences. We should rather promote that differences are a
> > > GoodThing™
> > >
> > > Humans do exhibit racial differences, but those differences should not be
> > > used as an excuse for abusing other people.
> > >
> > > I'm a pink Norwegian, and I would probably die in the Kalahari desert,
> > > unless rescued by someone from the San people. They are so darn cool!
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 2:57 PM Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It is remarkably easy to find various language Wikipedia articles that
> > > > actively promote scientific racism. The forthcoming WMF universal code
> > > > of conduct is unlikely to directly address this type of damaging
> > > > anti-educational content, or require projects to take action.
> > > >
> > > > This may surprise some, but here are two examples, and if you follow
> > > > the multiple language links in each, you will find many other language
> > > > examples:
> > > >
> > > > [1] Wikipedia article in Russian about "Negroid race" (Негроидная
> > > > раса) and associates Negroid as being defined by genetics. Nowhere in
> > > > the article is it explained that these are debunked racist theories.
> > > >
> > > > [2] Wikipedia article in Italian about "Mongoloid" (Mongoloide),
> > > > defines being Mongoloid by physical characteristics and presents it as
> > > > a scientific term with a section explaining how the Mogoloid race is
> > > > geographically spread.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, as these outdated racist theories are Wikipedia
> > > > articles, Wikimedia Commons still hosts multiple *user created*
> > > > "racial maps" of the human race as if this were a current scientific
> > > > race taxonomy for humans. These maps are not even required to have
> > > > warnings that their content is scientific racism or why that's a bad
> > > > thing.[3]
> > > >
> > > > At the current time, nobody is solving this problem with systemic
> > > > racism and I am unaware of the WMF funding a project that will take
> > > > action to fix it, nor even tracking this repugnant material. The idea
> > > > that we might still be vaguely talking about how bad it is that
> > > > Wikipedia is being used to promote "Negroid race" as science in
> > > > several years time, without any systematic action to get rid of it or
> > > > at least correctly reformat the article to describe it as debunked,
> > > > should alarm everyone concerned that donor's money is supporting this
> > > > content.
> > > >
> > > > Links
> > > > 1.
> > > >
> > https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0
> > > > 2. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoloide
> > > > 3.
> > > >
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Average_East-Eurasian_ancestry_(Mongoloid).png
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Fae
> > > > --
> > > > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
> > > >
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