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On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 19:05 Mohammed Bachounda <bachou...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> * Mohammed Bachounda <http://bachounda.com/>*
> Leader Wikimedia Algeria UG
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> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 2:05 AM Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Apologies for the delay. Two overview pages covering the technical and
> > business side of the project:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OKAPI
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OKAPI
> >
> > Regards
> > Seddon
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:29 PM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > A well-provisioned bulk api has been missing for some time.  Thanks for
> > > working on this.  And clearing up the recommended way for WP content to
> > > appear and be linked in third-party searches and infoboxes is important
> > --
> > > the sort of thing that an internal policy (and way to subscribe to
> feeds)
> > > can help.
> > >
> > > I do hope we can host this on WM or openstack infrastructure, and do it
> > in
> > > a way that expands and improves the solid existing frameworks for HTML
> > > dumps :)
> > >
> > > S
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 8:43 AM Chris Keating <
> > chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's interesting that of all the strategy recommendations, two are so
> > far
> > > > being implemented. One is the Universal Code of Conduct, which has at
> > > least
> > > > had plenty of discussion and publicity, that even precedes the
> strategy
> > > > process. The other is this, which hasn't been particularly prominent
> > > > before, but the WMF seems to have a team working on it just a couple
> of
> > > > weeks after the final recommendations were published.
> > > >
> > > > So while doing this is one of the strategy recommendations, it
> doesn't
> > > seem
> > > > that is is now happening *because of* the strategy
> recommendations....
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:46 AM Gergő Tisza <gti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You can find some more discussion at
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_3/Promote_Sustainability_and_Resilience#Freemium
> > > > >
> > > > > As I mentioned there, the premise of the recommendation is that the
> > > > > movement needs new revenue sources; in part because the 2030
> strategy
> > > is
> > > > > ambitious and requires a significant increase in resources, in part
> > > > because
> > > > > our current lack of diversity (about 40% of the movement's budget
> is
> > > from
> > > > > donations through website banners, and another 40% from past
> banners
> > > via
> > > > > email campaigns and such) is a strategic risk because those
> donations
> > > can
> > > > > be disrupted by various social or technical trends. For example,
> > large
> > > > tech
> > > > > companies which are the starting point of people's internet
> > experience
> > > > > (such as Facebook or Google) clearly have aspirations to become the
> > end
> > > > > point as well - they try to ingest and display to their users
> > directly
> > > as
> > > > > much online content as they can. Today, that's not a whole lot of
> > > content
> > > > > (you might see fragments of Wikipedia infoboxes in Google's
> > "knowledge
> > > > > panel", for example, but nothing resembling an encyclopedia
> article).
> > > Ten
> > > > > years from now, that might be different, and so we need to consider
> > how
> > > > we
> > > > > would sustain ourselves in such a world - in terms of revenue, and
> > also
> > > > in
> > > > > terms of people (how would new editors join the project, if most
> > people
> > > > > interacted with our content not via our website, but interfaces
> > > provided
> > > > by
> > > > > big tech companies where there is no edit button?).
> > > > >
> > > > > The new API project aims to do that, both in the sense of making it
> > > > > possible to have more equitable arrangements with bulk reusers of
> our
> > > > > content (who make lots of money with it), and by making it easier
> to
> > > > reuse
> > > > > content in ways that align with our movement's values (currently,
> if
> > > you
> > > > > reuse Wikipedia content in your own website or application, and
> want
> > to
> > > > > provide your users with information about the licensing or
> provenance
> > > of
> > > > > that content, or allow them to contribute, the tools we provide for
> > > that
> > > > > are third rate at best). As the recommendation mentions, erecting
> > > > > unintentional barriers to small-scale or non-commercial reusers was
> > > very
> > > > > much a concern, and I'm sure much care will be taken during
> > > > implementation
> > > > > to avoid it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wrt transparency, I agree this was communicated less clearly than
> > > ideal,
> > > > > but from the Wikimedia Foundation's point of view, it can be hard
> to
> > > know
> > > > > when to consult the community and to what extent (churning out so
> > much
> > > > > information that few volunteers can keep up with it can be a
> problem
> > > too;
> > > > > arguably early phases of the strategy process suffered from it).
> This
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > > problem that has received considerable attention within the WMF
> > > recently
> > > > > (unrelated to API plans) so there's at the very least an effort to
> > make
> > > > the
> > > > > process of sharing plans and gathering feedback more predictable.
> > > > > Also, the pandemic has been a huge disruption for the WMF.
> Normally,
> > by
> > > > > this point, the community would have been consulted on the draft
> > annual
> > > > > plan, which is where new initiatives tend to be announced; but that
> > has
> > > > > been delayed significantly due to so many staff members' lives
> being
> > > > > upheaved. Movement events where such plans are usually discussed
> had
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > cancelled, and so on.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Written with my volunteer hat on. I was involved in the strategy
> > > process
> > > > > and helped write the recommendation snippet Yair quoted upthread;
> I'm
> > > not
> > > > > involved in the API gateway project.)
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