Hi Victoria, I hope you're doing well. Please see below.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 12:19 PM Victoria Coleman <vstavridoucole...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The WMF Cloud Services team can totally provide the needed support. The > Foundation would have to invest them to build up the team which is over > stretched but that should easily pay for itself as revenue starts flowing in > from the paid API. You have worked in WMF and you are more deeply familiar with the internal workings of WMF, however, for the sake of others who read your comments above, I'd like to share some thoughts: * I have concerns about specific teams in WMF being volunteered on a public list for a project or work. As you know, adding a project to a team's set of responsibilities is not just about making a financial investment. Teams usually have plans for what they want to do over the coming 1-2 years and expanding the scope of their work or the diversity of what they need to manage can have major implications for the teams. Instead, I encourage us to ask the question "what does it take to be able to do x in our own infrastructure?" when we know this is the kind of experiment that has worked. * As has been shared before, the project is at the "experiment" level. When we don't know if an idea even works or not, we want to be mindful of our time investments. I personally want to be able to trust the team who is responsible for the project in assessing where the best place to invest their time is as they have better visibility into the work and the resources that are available to them. * You said "The Foundation would have to invest them to build up the team [...]". I want to be very explicit: the problem of where to invest the WMF resources is a very very complex problem. There are many important projects and ideas in WMF, all potentially with big impact, and there are, as you had more visibility into during your tenure, critical efforts that can benefit from much more investments. The c-team has a hard job each time they make resourcing decisions: they can't think about one project or one team only. They need to take into account the portfolio of projects and needs the WMF has and figure out where to invest. You and I may or may not agree with their decisions, however, I'd caution us from assuming that this is the kind of problem that we can easily solve once we're in their shoes. Best, Leila -- Leila Zia Head of Research Wikimedia Foundation > Victoria > > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Kunal Mehta <lego...@member.fsf.org> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On 2020-07-09 13:15, Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: > >> Which cloud provider would you recommend? > > > > Wikimedia Cloud Services, which incidentally, has the fastest network > > connection to Wikimedia sites by virtue of it being hosted *inside* the > > cluster. > > > > -- Legoktm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>