The list of userboxes was cached and just needed a null edit. The TfD is here: https://w.wiki/r9U
There is no AGF for a user that identifies as a Nazi, the AGF is about the whole wiki. In other words, you can't just say a wiki is hostile against LGBT+ users because someone somewhere in that wiki said he likes Hitler [1]. That's a strawman fallacy. As a CU, 'crat, admin and oversight of that wiki who put a huge picture of two guys kissing in his user page, I can say fawiki is in much better shape than lots of Wikis in matter of supporting LGBT+ volunteers and giving them a safe space. [1] The weird part is that the same user has another userbox saying "This user believes in equality of rights of gay peopole" (but OTOH, if a person would be properly rational, they have not been a Nazi in the first place). On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 7:31 PM Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: > Pages that include "this user likes Hitler" with a portrait of Hitler, > pages which proudly declare that users are against LGBT+ rights, the > existence of LGBT+ people or the rights of LGBT+ people to have > children, do not require anyone to "assume good faith". Those are > disturbing and hateful things to publish on any web site, and WMF > projects are being misused to host them. > > Painting this in such a way that whistle-blowers should not highlight > these cases because the complainant looks like they are saying "this > wiki is totally bad" misses the point entirely. Claiming that the > problem is solved once a userbox is deleted, but no other action was > taken by local administrators, or the WMF Office, is sticking a > plaster on a broken leg. > > The facts are that 28 user accounts were mentioned in this email > thread that actively misuse their user pages. Nothing has happened > from the perspective of those accounts, and they probably firmly > believe they have done nothing wrong. Local editors should be worried > that their project remains a hostile environment. > > By the way, the "Hitler userbox" was never a userbox. It's still on > display, so I'm unsure what actions you refer to. > > Thanks, > Fae > -- > [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 17:28, Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > And it got deleted, in total it lived under a month and it would have > been deleted sooner if someone saw it sooner. Instead of using this as an > argument to say "this wiki is totally bad" assume good faith. > > > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:33 PM Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> I just want to mention that the userbox was created twenty days ago and > is now being discussed for deletion. > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:23 PM Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Maggie, > >>> > >>> Thanks for publishing this nice and clear restatement of WMF's > >>> commitment to a safe and non-hostile environment for Wikimedia LGBT+ > >>> volunteers and those of our community who are a part of minority > >>> groups that we see unfairly targeted with harassment, hounding and > >>> aggression across our projects. This positive response was > >>> impressively fast after working together to share and discuss better > >>> responses to the feedback from members of our WM-LGBT+ user group, > >>> which benefits from a highly varied global membership. > >>> > >>> There will be many readers of this email list that have no direct > >>> experience of the problematic behaviours or the systematic > >>> "unwelcoming" environment that can be experienced across our projects > >>> by minority groups. Here are two illustrative examples that should > >>> raise an eyebrow. These samples are easy to understand and show this > >>> is not a question of folks being too "thin-skinned": > >>> > >>> * Userboxes and user pages may include unwelcoming statements in the > >>> guise of open discrimination through to unpleasant "jokes". Many users > >>> are under the impression that user pages and user talk pages are > >>> semi-private and fair game for free speech and is tolerated even to > >>> the extent of being direct hate speech. Examples include using > >>> swastika or fascist images and claiming membership of hate groups. > >>> This is "tolerated" and some are embedded in templates used for years > >>> as well as on specific user pages. When a LGBT+ Wikimedia contributor > >>> is faced with user pages that openly and proudly are against LGBT+ > >>> people to exist or have a family life, the project in total has to be > >>> judged unsafe and hostile. Within our User Group, it is not uncommon > >>> to find LGBT+ contributors are scared to even try editing LGBT+ > >>> related topics on these Wikipedias.[1] > >>> > >>> * Articles in multiple languages exist that promote nonsensical and > >>> defamatory race theories, such as claiming that Nenets (an ethnic > >>> group native of arctic Russia) are part of a "neo-Mongoloid" race of > >>> humans. These articles appear to deliberately misuse modern genetic > >>> research and several have relied on user-created unverifiable and > >>> anti-science "genetic maps" hosted on Commons. Some volunteers have > >>> been persistently and politely raising these many cases using local > >>> Wikipedia discussion, and externally with the WMF with the facts about > >>> these defamatory Wikipedias for over a decade. The most common > >>> experience is to be dismissed as a fringe lobbyist through to > >>> administrators warning you from continuing to try to correct these > >>> issues. There has been no systemic response to correct this damaging > >>> misinformation, and the Wikipedias the misinformation is hosted on > >>> remain corrupted with hostile and racist minority views.[2] > >>> > >>> Links: > >>> 1. > >>> * > https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C_%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1/%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%DB%8C%D9%82&oldid=30403894 > >>> User interest templates, including a userbox with Hitler portrait, > >>> translates to "This user likes Adolf Hitler". > >>> * https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Matt_Paletto User page on > >>> Spanish Wikipedia which uses an anti-LGBT rainbow flag for showing > >>> they are against same-sex marriage. > >>> https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Matt_Paletto Same user displays > >>> the anti-LGBT flag on the Polish Wikipedia stating they are against > >>> same-sex couples adopting children. There are at least 11 users on the > >>> Polish Wikipedia that use the anti-LGBT flag on their user pages, not > >>> as a "joke". > >>> * On the English Wikipedia > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Barumbarumba displays a different > >>> anti-LGBT symbol to state they are against the "LGBT movement". There > >>> are 17 users that have this symbol on their user pages across > >>> different Wikipedias. > >>> > >>> 2. > >>> * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256115 Tracking task for systemic > >>> promotion of scientific racism, raised 6 months ago. There has been no > >>> non-volunteer action to date. > >>> * > https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%96%B0%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B4%E3%83%AD%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89 > >>> Japanese Wikipedia with a "neo-Mongoloid" article. > >>> > >>> I hope this is helpful for those not normally involved in these issues > >>> to wonder how we might better show respect and avoid defamation of > >>> minorities, whilst never having to censor our coverage of all > >>> (verifiable) human knowledge. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Fae > >>> -- > >>> [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LGBT Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group > >>> > >>> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 15:24, Maggie Dennis <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Hello. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > My name is Maggie Dennis. I’m the Vice President of Community > Resilience and Sustainability at the Wikimedia Foundation.[1] I oversee the > Foundation’s Trust and Safety teams (operations and policy), the Community > Development team, and the upcoming Foundation Human Rights lead. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On December 2nd, I met with representatives of the Wikimedia LGBT+ > User Group along with several Trust and Safety personnel, including Global > Head Jan Eißfeldt, to understand some of the challenges faced by the > members of the group as volunteers in our international movement.[2] It is > apparent that many volunteers openly identifying as LGBTQIA+ are targeted > and attacked for their identities, with transgender, non-binary, queer, and > queer feminist editors in particular at higher risk for such abuse. The > members of the group who met with us voiced concerns about the safety and > wellbeing of other marginalized communities and groups as well. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > In my role, and speaking for the Foundation, I am writing today to > restate, reinforce, and firmly assert our commitment to supporting the > LGBTQIA+ volunteers in our movement, as well as others who face exclusion > and hostility on the basis of identity factors.[3] > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > The Wikimedia movement is based on the value of inclusivity, that > anyone may play a part in not only receiving but curating and sharing > knowledge. What volunteers have been able to accomplish in Wikimedia > projects is extraordinary, but the movement will never reach its full > potential if we do not close the diversity gap which our communities > defined so ably in the Movement Strategy process.[4] There continue to be > barriers in our movement for LGBTQIA+, women, indigenous communities, and > other underrepresented groups. We as a movement have been called upon by a > broad and diverse group of our own movement members to promote inclusivity > and reduce harms to our participants. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > In light of this, one of my teams has been directed by the Board of > Trustees to (among other requests) facilitate the drafting of the Universal > Code of Conduct called for in the Movement Strategy recommendations.[5] > This collaboratively drafted document underwent significant community > review in September and October and is currently under review by the Board. > We will next be launching a second phase of that work in January, meant to > result in enforcement pathways that will make our projects safe spaces for > all volunteers. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Following the LGBT+ User Group meeting, we are also building into > our plans facilitated support for the LGBT+ User Group and other Wikimedia > affiliate organizations focused on marginalized communities to come > together to discuss better mechanisms for supporting volunteers who are > targeted on the basis of sexual orientation, gender, race, religion, > ethnicity or other identify factors. We expect to solidify plans and launch > conversations in January and will be putting out information on how to > participate. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > In addition, we see the urgency and the opportunity to do more to > address the needs of the LGBT+ User Group and others. The Foundation’s > Community Resilience & Sustainability function will be connecting more > closely with the LGBT+ User Group going forward to ensure that the > Foundation’s staff better understand the needs of this community, > especially but not solely in our professional Trust & Safety work. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > We are committed to supporting volunteers in participating safely in > our movement and want to be sure that we do not, through lack of > understanding, ourselves do harm. This includes: > >>> > > >>> > adopting and disseminating to staff best-practice terminology when > conducting community surveys, > >>> > > >>> > ensuring that volunteers have easier access to existing reporting > structures now, even as we build other enforcement pathways in the UCoC, > >>> > > >>> > being vigilant that incidents where individuals are targeted for > identity factors are properly recognized and addressed in our Trust & > Safety systems, and > >>> > > >>> > exploring peer support options. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > I thank the members of the user group for inviting us to join them. > I’m excited and energized by that conversation and looking forward to > finding ways to improve. I hope others in the community will join in the > publicly hosted UCoC discussions starting early in the new year to improve > the safety of all community members. It will help to ensure that volunteers > across the movement, and in all movement spaces online and off, have an > opportunity to contribute safely. People should feel welcomed to contribute > to our collective and important mission of delivering the sum of all > knowledge to everyone. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Warm regards, > >>> > > >>> > Maggie Dennis > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > P.S. This statement is also on Meta, at > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resilience_and_Sustainability/2020_December_Foundation_commitment_of_support_for_LGBT%2B_volunteers, > where translation is being enabled today. If you are interested in helping > translate, please do! > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > [1] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resilience_and_Sustainability > >>> > > >>> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT%2B/Portal > >>> > > >>> > [3] I’m borrowing the language of the UN, here: > https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/UN%20Strategy%20and%20Plan%20of%20Action%20on%20Hate%20Speech%2018%20June%20SYNOPSIS.pdf > . > >>> > > >>> > [4] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Provide_for_Safety_and_Inclusion > >>> > > >>> > [5] > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Maggie Dennis > >>> > Vice President, Community Resilience & Sustainability > >>> > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >>> New messages to: [email protected] > >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Amir (he/him) > >> > > > > > > -- > > Amir (he/him) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Amir (he/him)
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