Hi! Thanks Matej for your input! It is appreciated!
As (too) much was already said, I am going to add nothing beyond where it directly addresses me, to correct some statements. To my best memory, the agreement to go for a mediation was done only about half a year ago (but it is now buried in old messages, so I am not sure). I do not recall that I agreed with AffCom that I will not "posting [my] grievances in various places around the community". I have agreed that I will not discuss WMSVK's violations with people who have done them. And I have violated this once or twice early in the process in instant messenger or similar and have apologized timely. Because of the similarity of the two versions, I believe and hope that this Matej's / WMSVK's belief is based on a rather free interpretation of non-written communications between different parties (you know the "telephone" game ;). I believe I have informed Matej about this several hours ago. Did my mindset not allowed to proceed a mediation? Well, I sincerely do not know! I have never participated consciously in a formal mediation - so I do not know what *precisely* (in details) to expect. Maybe yes, maybe not. Based on my conceptual understanding of mediation, I generally tend to believe that my mindset is ok about that and allow mediation. I am a natural problem solver and if all parties want to find a common ground, I am in! AffCom expressed that it considered the *topics* to be not appropriate for mediation. Is Matej well experienced in mediation, so he knows whether I would fit in or not? If not, it would be nice If he would present more factual statements. Best regards! KuboF Hromoslav (Michal Matúšov) ut 26. 10. 2021 o 23:23 Matej Grochal <[email protected]> napísal(a): > Dear all > > this is Matej Grochal, chair of Wikimedians of Slovakia and one of the > parties in the conflict. I am just coming into the discussion as I was not > aware of it from the beginning and was not a member of this mailing list. > > Let me offer you my input on this matter. > > About a year ago, Mr Matúšov and I (representing WMSK) agreed on > mediation. AffCom was to be the mediator. We had an individual call in > December 2020 with AffCom but WMSK and I pushed for having a mediation call > of both parties and AffCom as the mediator. After some coordination during > spring 2021, AffCom called off the mediation just as it seemed that it was > going to go ahead. The reason given was that both sides do not agree to the > terms of mediation. We emailed back for clarification while restating our > commitment to proceed with it. Around the time I reached out to Mr Matúšov > who seemed perplexed that the mediation had been cancelled and committed > himself as well. Not having a clear understanding of the situation, I > contacted AffCom who replied that mediation would not proceed due to > differences already mentioned. Since our commitment was clear, we wanted to > know what happened. They informed us that Mr Matúšov was of a different > mind about mediation and so it could not go ahead. (Not very surprising > since there are two parties to the mediation). This was somewhat perplexing > still so I kept in touch with Mr Matúšov and made sure we are on the same > page about what mediation means. We were. However, I also came to > understand that he was indeed not ready for mediation. The same conclusion > was reached from further communication with him and AffCom during the fall > of 2021. > Even if AffCom did not state explicitly that it was Mr Matúšov who > cancelled the mediation, they would have every right to do so. His mind set > did not allow it to proceed and he effectively cancelled the process. The > matter was further complicated by the fact that despite waiting for > mediation, Mr Matúšov kept posting his grievances in various places around > the community after having agreed not to do so with AffCom. I will let you > judge whether this is acting in good faith. > To sum up: while AffCom could have been somewhat faster and more clear on > certain issues, I would not blame AffCom for providing false information. I > would also appreciate if accusations of providing false behaviour were less > lightly thrown. > > Thank you > > Matej Grochal >
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