Thanks, Vermont, for the explanation! It is indeed good to notice that „good article“ is a specific term in English Wikipedia, but that other wiki communities define it differently. E.g., German WP calls these articles „articles worth to read“ (lesenswerte Artikel). For the Klexikon, we consider all of our articles to be „good articles“ meaning that they are easy to read, well structured and well composed. (If they aren‘t, they should be still in the draft name space.) Kind regards, Ziko
Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> schrieb am Fr. 17. Dez. 2021 um 16:31: > Hi Ziko, > > Content on the Simple English Wikipedia is indeed very uneven. Though most > of the project’s articles are stubs with not many issues, there are a lot > of mid-size articles with sourcing and/or accuracy problems. > > And given the nature of Simple English, our good articles are not really > written in the same way that a good article in another language would > necessarily be written, meaning that machine translation would likely > require a lot more copyediting than usual to bring it to an acceptable > level. For specifics, see: > > https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_write_Simple_English_pages#Simple_sentence_structure > > Best regards, > Vermont > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 03:55 Ziko van Dijk <zvand...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello James, >> Interesting, what extra tools you have there. >> Andreas, in theory Simple English Wikipedia would be great as an >> international platform for the dissemination of articles. But in >> reality I have the impression that the content of S.E.WP is very >> uneven, the quality is very diverse. >> Galder, nice to hear of these initiatives and what is all possible in >> a joint action. >> Kind regards >> Ziko >> >> Am Do., 16. Dez. 2021 um 19:59 Uhr schrieb James Heilman < >> jmh...@gmail.com>: >> > >> > Hey Ziko >> > >> > We have moved our medical translation efforts, such that MDWiki is our >> starting point. >> > >> > https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:Translation_task_force >> > >> > 1) We have also encountered a reference template issue with CTX but >> have built a work around. Our issue appears to relate to <ref name=ABC/> >> and the same reference being used multiple times. What we do is we simply >> expand all the metadata for each instance of the reference before feeding >> the text into CTX. And then we have a bot that shortens all the instances >> of a reference back to one. >> > >> > 2) One of the benefits of using MDWiki is it allows us to keep >> references in the lead and use language that is easier to understand, but >> not be forced to use language as easy as Simple English. It has also >> allowed us to automatically generate a leaderboard to track progress and >> impact of our translation efforts. Additionally we only encourage people to >> translate the leads as that is only that has been medically checked for >> accuracy. >> https://mdwiki.toolforge.org/Translation_Dashboard/leaderboard.php >> > >> > Best >> > James >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:34 AM Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks, Ziko. Does anyone use Simple English Wikipedia as a basis for >> their translations? >> >> >> >> I reckon DeepL – which is by far the best machine translation program >> around, in the languages it covers – might do an even better job with those >> (provided the Simple English article is itself of good quality, and worth >> translating). >> >> >> >> Andreas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, >> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/R7UQ4EUVVRFXYIYBQB6S25Y7SQQCIB2J/ >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > James Heilman >> > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, >> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> > Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/I4QSZFVMBRVU7SBRYROJUMSR5RMQWYHA/ >> > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> > Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/NUTGNPULDEVOWA3KL4H5ZCHZKEH7H25M/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > -- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > User:Vermont <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vermont> on Wikimedia > projects > they/them/theirs (why pronouns matter > <https://www.mypronouns.org/what-and-why>) > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/B5WSUJKIQUP3PPJIGDFAURQM6ORCFVZV/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org -- Dr. Ziko van Dijk / zikovandijk.de Autor von "Wikis und die Wikipedia verstehen" <http://www.zikovandijk.de/wikis-und-die-wikipedia-verstehen/> "Niederlande & Deutschland": https://www.youtube.com/ZikovanDijk
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