This is an interesting point, because many trolls actually WIN when we delete 
something, because their trolling is there forever. It should be visible for 
administrators, or if you search for it, but not in the deleted article itself.
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: "content was" when deleting pages - is it useful?

Yes, that's what I imagine.

In the Hebrew Wikipedia, this feature is still active, and someone wondered 
what is it actually good for. When I delete pages, I definitely erase things 
that may be in any way problematic. And sometimes I delete them even if they 
aren't. If this feature didn't exist, it wouldn't bother me. But that's my 
experience--maybe I'm missing something.

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‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 17 בינו׳ 2022 ב-16:35 מאת ‪Newyorkbrad‬‏ 
<‪[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>‬‏>:‬
The problem with this feature was that when the deleted material was libelous, 
offensive, etc., it would still automatically be copied into the deletion 
summary, which served to defeat the entire purpose of deleting it.

Newyorkbrad/IBM


On Monday, January 17, 2022, Amir E. Aharoni 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hallo!

There's an old MediaWiki feature: When an administrator deletes a page, a bit 
of its content is automatically added to an edit summary. This is later 
viewable in deletion logs.

If you edit in the English, German, or Italian Wikipedia, then you haven't 
actually seen this feature in years, because administrators in these wikis 
essentially removed it by locally blanking the system messages that make it 
work.

In many other wikis, however, this feature is still working.

Is it actually useful? Or should it perhaps be removed?

Here's a Phabricator task about it:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T299351

If you have an opinion, weigh in there or here.

Thanks!

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