Thank you so much Rae. Reading some emails it seems that stewards spend their days trying blocking random people.
Vito Il giorno ven 22 apr 2022 alle ore 13:32 Rae Adimer via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> ha scritto: > Hi all, > > About unblocking IPs that geolocate to Africa, it’s not as though the > blocked IPs are random. The problem with these affected ISPs are that they > have many users on the same IP address. They aren’t traditional proxies > (and traditional proxies will not be unblocked, that isn’t the issue here), > they’re just poorly managed ISPs. I’m not even sure if there would be more > vandalism from unblocking these ISPs, and I think it should be done. > > “Smart blocking” would be a bad idea. It would take *a lot* of work to > implement and would be a net harm to our ability to deal with abuse. I am > strongly opposed to creating this. Also remember to a large extent the > issue with these IPs isn’t a range, it’s that there’s multiple users on the > *same* IP. > > Regarding IPBE, the issue isn’t that we’re declining requests, it’s that > we don’t get to them in a timely manner. There are a lot of requests. > > I’ve tried to clear up a number of other misconceptions in a comment on > the Meta-Wiki page as well. > > Best regards, > Rae > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 07:03 WereSpielChequers < > werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yesterday I was on a conference call that included several Nigerian >> Wikipedians, I was surprised at how much of their problems editing >> Wikipedia were over blocks. >> >> The English language Wikipedia doesn't have an overall problem with >> editing numbers, nearly eight years on, editing volumes are still clearly >> above the 2014 minima. But we do have huge geographic skews and in >> particular we badly underrepresent the English speaking parts of Africa in >> our community and in our Projects. I don't know if other languages have >> similar issues, but it would not surprise me. >> >> I get that lowering our guard overall against IP vandals would increase >> the workload of those who'd rather be improving Wikipedia than clearing up >> after vandals. But there are a couple of things that could fairly easily >> be done if we want a more global community. >> >> Firstly, unblock IPs that geolocate to countries where we lack >> contributors.Yes we will get more vandalism in those countries, but far far >> less than if we also unblocked all IPs in countries where we have lots of >> editors. >> >> Secondly, implement "smart blocking", especially with range bocks. Yes >> there will still be lots of collateral damage where someone in the same >> range has the same sort of device/, O/S etc as the person who did the edit >> that prompted the block. But anyone in the same range who uses a different >> type of hardware operating system etc would not be caught by a smart block. >> >> Thirdly, especially if we can't do the first two, be more liberal with IP >> block exemption for accounts in countries where we lack editors and have >> problems with a limited number of often blocked IPs. >> >> WSC >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/CDBOEBW2ZRYHWYBHAYEPOIWZ6YC2WLIK/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > -- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > User:Vermont <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vermont> on Wikimedia > projects > they/them/theirs (why pronouns matter > <https://www.mypronouns.org/what-and-why>) > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/RQYWVQXJJ3EOSEXXDTZQQRFEOSESROA7/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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