Is there no public notice or rationale given when grant applications are declined? The only update on the status of your grant that I can see was by you: < https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants:Project/Rapid/WPM:VideoWiki&diff=23125476&oldid=23110705 >.
On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 6:37 PM James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have not found getting funding from the WMF for projects easy. VideoWiki > for example has mostly been funded by WikiProjectMed / personally funded. > Our first grant application since fully taking on the effort was declined > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WPM:VideoWiki> and > our programmer working on the project has thus moved on. Our experience has > been similar regarding our collaboration with Our World in Data. We have > gotten the interactive graphs working on our own site > <https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:OWID> and offered to work on > doing the same for Wikipedia (plus making them multilingual). Jumping > through hoops to meet WMF requirements will; however, cost about 1,000 USD. > WikiProjectMed has never received funding from the WMF and as a much much > smaller NGO cannot cover these programming expenses for the movement. > > James > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 3:49 PM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> We face the paradox <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredkin%27s_paradox> >> of choice <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overchoice>, the lull of peace, >> and the fog of distributed bureaucracy. >> ~ With great possibility comes disfocus. (and a few things with focus!) >> ~ With no clear challenge or adversary, we've become comfortable fussing >> over small changes... Even as the world moves on to new frontiers and >> companies race to enclose derivatives of our work. This peace is coming to >> an end. >> ~ Our central overhead costs are quite high. So high^ that it seems to >> baffle everyone involved, each believing the bureaucracy must be caused by >> some other part of the system, outside of their or their org's control. >> >> Our projects are already a global standard for multimodal collaboration >> at scale, we should embrace that and rise to meet it. Building some of the >> world's best free, mulitilingual, accessible tools for is within our remit, >> experience, and budget. >> [Discourse raised a *total *of $20M over its lifetime. we could >> support + spin out free-knowledge free-software layers like that every >> year.] >> >> Let's practice working together, focusing on a few things each year that >> can change not only our projects but the world, honoring existing work and >> aggressively shedding anything we are doing that others are alreay doing >> almost as well. >> >> SJ >> >> *^* Up to 10-to-1 in some areas, plus delays of years inserted into >> otherwise continuous processes. This ratio can slip into the negative if >> one includes opportunity cost, or funded work that displaces or drives out >> comparable voluntary work; or that demands thousands of hours of input for >> little result. >> 🌍🌏🌎🌑 >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 8:45 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < >> galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Or, maybe, just making Wikimedia a non-obsolete environment. I'm sure >>> the money can go to that effort. >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Felipe Schenone <scheno...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2022 12:51 PM >>> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Inc. design staff >>> >>> I agree with the diagnosis, but maybe not with the solution. If >>> Wikimedia is getting "overfunding" and doesn't quite know what to so with >>> it, there's probably plenty of good things to do. We could start a >>> community process to decide it, because as you say, reducing funding >>> efforts or saving indefinitely for the future isn't likely to happen or >>> even desirable, considering the alternatives. >>> >>> Here are some ideas: >>> >>> * Investing in clean energy sources for Wikimedia servers. >>> * Funding of external developers and libraries on which MediaWiki >>> depends. >>> * Funding of open knowledge projects beyond Wikimedia, to not stray too >>> far the original intentions of donors and volunteers. >>> * Funding of other non-knowledge altruistic projects (like buying land >>> for a natural reserve). I'm sure the funding team could rethink and >>> generalize the campaign to justify this use for future donations. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022, 4:47 AM <tim.h...@gmx.de> wrote: >>> >>> The question of you is important. The Wikimedia Foundation hired a lot >>> of people in the last years and I do not see so big change in the output. >>> It is a question that is from my point of view relevant for different areas >>> at the Wikimedia Foundation. I dont support a too big focus on efficiency >>> that needs a lot of metrics to measure and to create these metrics needs >>> then a lot of staff. What is needed and what not is not easy to measure. >>> With increasing available resources the staff will probably increase. This >>> is an usual behaviour of humans that they try to use resources if available >>> and do not only allocate them for the future or say no and try to reduce >>> the needed resources if not neccessary. From my point of view the Wikimedia >>> Foundation should reduce the Fundraising acitivities and try to reduce in >>> the next years the yearly expenses or pay at least attention that they do >>> not increase further. The salaries at the Wikimedia Foundation are >>> currently from my point of view in relation to Germany based NGOs high. I >>> think interesting documents to get an overview about the work of the >>> Wikimedia Foundation are the quaterly tuning sessions. >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Foundation_tuning_sessions,_FY2021-22 >>> >>> Hogü-456 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/LL7NEZZNI7QBLBXDCKFFBVYHBJCDRMXX/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/T4WUKPJA4KZ4L3EFUFGLM22SRDJBFCQU/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/2NEN6MSBYKJLJUP4QYKPVKU7PG57MRJR/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/H3M7SC4ZEEQQX4BNMEA3MYVLAFE45Y33/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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