>From our experience, is just the opposite: Wikipedia is not asking any extra 
>step nor age confirmation, and legally you can have an account even if you are 
>underage. Children are consulting Wikipedia without limits, and they can find 
>adult content easily. We don't have any advice about that, nor filters at 
>Commons, where you can find even porn using words that were not intended for 
>that. The place is open, and we have massive visits from children, so 
>providing them a better place, thought for them (as our strategic direction 
>says) is better that not providing at all.

If you want to know more about Txikipedia, contact us, please.

Galder
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I think a particular hurdle for a standalone WMF-affiliated kidipedia project 
is the COPPA, and other similar laws both in the US and elsewhere that could 
potentially increase civil liability. Another hurdle is that America is very 
aware, perhaps overly aware, of the potential safety risks when children are 
involved in websites. Then you add in the fact that kids are likely to continue 
editing Wikipedia instead of Kidipedia, and it’s not worth the extra effort.  
This effort would include hiring/reassigning staff so you can have a team of 
people for just Kidipedia, along with the background checks and identity 
verification needed. None of that are obstacles that aren’t in the way of kids 
editing the existing projects.

I predict a WMF-affiliated kidipedia would largely be abandoned quite quickly.

From,
I dream of horses
She/her

On Jun 21, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Mathias Damour 
<mathias.dam...@gmx.fr<mailto:mathias.dam...@gmx.fr>> wrote:

Hi Ziko, Samuel and everybody,

De: "Ziko van Dijk" <zvand...@gmail.com<mailto:zvand...@gmail.com>>
Hello Samuel,

Thank you for your mail. I would like to see more attention from the Wikimedia 
movement for the target group children age ca. 8-14.

I am afraid there is no real comprehensive study about the best way to provide 
encyclopedic wiki content to children, or even to involve them in the content 
creation.

In general, children are a very special and vulnerable group. This can become 
problematic when they are directly involved on a platform, and when it comes to 
the content itself.

And yet it works well with Vikidia, which has been active for more than 15 
years, writing an average of 6 articles par day since the beginning !
There is some blog posts that elaborate how it works, what it implies and what 
it means to let a multi-age community work together, unfortunatly only in 
french (except one in english):
https://www.wikimedia.fr/author/astirmays/
My english is certainly not good enought to translate them properly, yet I 
would be glad to get some help to do so or to find a way to get them translated 
(anybody tell me if you wish to help translating 2 or 3 of theses posts !)
One also reviews some of the commons objections to such a project and how we 
adress them.

Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com<mailto:meta...@gmail.com>> schrieb am Mo. 20. 
Juni 2022 um 02:25:

More languages should try that.   a) simple skin hack, b) loving and lovely 
idea, c) more compelling to me than the standalone kidipedia projects :)   
Anyway, thanks for improving my weekend, Txikipedians.   SJ

Actually when you have a "standalone kidipedia project", it has the great 
benefit to allow to have its own community, and not to be marginalized inside a 
much bigger project. Both young readers and young editors love it. I guess that 
the choice may depend on the size of the "mother" Wikipedia and the potential 
community to gather on this project.

Mathias Damour
[[User:Astirmays]]
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