I think that there is a very sensible point here. Sometimes behind some usergroups there is not a specific community but only few people and sometimes some usergroups are "userpersons".
Being more transparent helps to demonstrate that the whole process has been conducted appropriately but also to have an overview that affiliates have voted really on what their community proposed. Kind regards On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 3:28 AM Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am disturbed to see some community members blithely dismissing the need >> to protect the well-being of potentially vulnerable community members, > > > This is not some functionary volunteer role, nor is it a scholarship to > attend some event. The affiliate and the members of the Board of Trustees > are both very public facing aspects, when a person is on the Board of > Trustees their identity is public > https://wikimediafoundation.org/role/board/ . It is obvious that a > truly vulnerable person would not even put themselves into a BOT > position. It's important for members of the community to know who their > affiliate chose to represent them because it's a reflection of that > community. I know some affiliates actually didnt consult their communities > for input into the decision process before the fact so knowing after the > fact is at least pretending to be transparent in the voting. > > > > On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 06:01, Benjamin Lees <emufarm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't think there's anything blithe in pointing out that an >> after-the-fact promise of secrecy serves no one. Affiliates had to decide >> whether to vote without knowing whether the list would be published (but >> hopefully realizing that the username of their voter would be published, >> although I'm not sure if this was made clear). The main effect of post-hoc >> secrecy here would be to sow confusion and set up unrealistic expectations >> about future votes; in the last affiliate-selected board seat process, not >> only was the list of voting affiliates published, but *their individual >> votes were as well*: < >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Asbs_presentation_matches_with_stv_py_results.pdf>, >> and for the reasons Lodewijk describes, we might well wish to return to >> such full transparency in the future. >> >> If a decision either way had been made and communicated beforehand, >> affiliate voters could have made an informed decision, but as with most of >> the rules for this election, it was announced in the middle of the >> election, rather than in the many months before it. In any event, I agree >> with SJ that this is a decision to be made by the elections committee, not >> WMF staff. >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 4:45 PM Robert Fernandez <wikigamal...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I am disturbed to see some community members blithely dismissing the >>> need to protect the well-being of potentially vulnerable community members, >>> especially in a community that usually prides itself on the ability to >>> participate anonymously. >>> >>> That said, perhaps we could publish the names of participating >>> affiliates who affirm the wish to be named publicly. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/LNXPN2Z5TY35SJOV6MOLB7ASOQL57GGF/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/DNDMKF4NKNDFEKC5FFHXWB24FISK4NCA/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > -- > GN. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/27TMCRTG33NLTXSSN4P5JZFVX7OEEIFS/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario> Skype: valdelli Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch
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