Hi there, There are a few things I do wonder about, which are not clear from the > conversation/statistics: > - is the approval rating significantly different among voters from smaller > projects than in larger projects? I don't know if the voting infrastructure > even allows for such a breakdown. > - are within projects, certain types of users over represented? For > example, I would love some breakdown along tenure (how long have editors > been around), rights holders (admin, arbcom, etc) and how those compare to > the populations in their respective communities.
Unfortunately this kind of breakdown data isn't possible with SecurePoll - that's by design, since the system anonymises votes as they're placed. So there would be no way to know who exactly a "yes" or a "no" came from in the data, and thus no way to get more granular data (at least as things are set up right now). best, Joe -- *Joe Sutherland* (he/him) Lead Trust and Safety Specialist Wikimedia Foundation On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 at 10:59, effe iets anders <effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree that these are valid concerns, as is the point that we should > consider how the 'homewiki' (or whatever demographic you choose to follow) > distribution across those votes impacts the outcome. I think there will be > general agreement that more participation would be great (although I feel > that I have to admit, that this time around I didn't vote myself: just > didn't get to reading the proposals carefully enough this time.) > > There are a few things I do wonder about, which are not clear from the > conversation/statistics: > - is the approval rating significantly different among voters from smaller > projects than in larger projects? I don't know if the voting infrastructure > even allows for such a breakdown. > - are within projects, certain types of users over represented? For > example, I would love some breakdown along tenure (how long have editors > been around), rights holders (admin, arbcom, etc) and how those compare to > the populations in their respective communities. > > A turnout this size is maybe not a high percentage of eligible voters, but > note that we intentionally set our eligibility criteria low. A low > percentage is then only a natural outcome. I do wonder: what kind of > percentage would make colleagues more confident? And how could we > realistically achieve those percentages? > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 7:55 PM <adel.nehaoua.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> مرحبًا، لست معترضًا على النتائج أو السياسة، بل العكس هو أمر جيد من >> الناحية التنظيمية ومكافحة التحرش والإساءة لكن لدي بعض الملاحظات حول العملية >> وليس على المحتوى: >> * نسبة المشاركة تعد ضئيلة جدًا مشاركة 3097 ناخباً من بين 68745 ناخب مؤهل >> * عدد الموافقين على الإنفاذ 2,290 ناخب بمعنى بمعنى أقل 4% من المجتمع >> العالمي النشط >> * استحوذت 3 مجتمعات فقط على أكثر من نصف الأصوات وهذه المجتمعات معظمها من >> أوربا الغربية وأمريكا الشمالية >> والتساؤل: >> * لماذا لا يتم ذكر هذه الإحصائيات وتحليلها واستنباط الأثر منها على >> المستقبل؟ وذلك لأن باقي المجتمعات لم تشارك أو كانت مشاركتها ضئيلة فهي >> غير مهتمة أو لم يكن هنا حملة قوية لجلب الاهتمام أو غيرها من الأمور مما قد >> يؤدي في الأخير عدم تبني السياسة أصلًا أو قد يتعاملون معها كقانون جبري >> * هل مشاركة المجتمعات القوية فقط لا يُعزز المفهوم الغربي لطريقة الانفاذ؟ >> * هل عدم اهتمام المجتمعات الأخرى نذير بوجود فجوات كبيرة وجب إصلاحها أو >> نستمر وكأن الأمر ليس ذو شأن؟ >> تمنيت لو كانت قراءة عميقة نستخلص بها النتائج لتطويلا مستقبلي للحركة >> ودفعها للأمام بدل الجداول والأرقام التي قد لا يفقهها الكثير منا وقد تُعطي >> انطباعا خاطئا >> تحياتي >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/BITDAPENFZSAYHRFR3HDPNNLOD54TWWR/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/MK2R3FD2LRBGXU5OXB6QMSX57JFL2YHP/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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