Yet in some countries, like mine, paying for food, renting a place, buying a house, etc. is far cheaper than in the US, so paying a lower salary (in USD) wouldn't amount to a lower standard of living at all, and doesn't feel immoral, at least to me.
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 8:00 AM Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Either we make software development cheaper somehow (move the WMF to >> Romania or something) > > > Hiring in countries with the worst labour laws and cheapest minimum wages > is totally immoral. Especially in a community where equity is part of our > culture we must endeavour to ensure that employees/contractors regardless > of where they live paid fairly and equally subject to skills and > responsibilities of the role. WMF already has many employees that are > based in countries where such immoral employment conditions dominate. > >> > On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 05:49, Dan Garry (Deskana) <djgw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I agree with much of what Amir has said here, except one little bit... >> >> On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 20:52, Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> And even if a software would have an owner, it used to be that the team >>> was under so much pressure to produce new things instead of maintenance >>> that the software would practically be without a maintainer (or worse, as >>> even volunteers couldn't unofficially take the role). I can example a few. >>> >> >> I think pressure on a team to deliver new things is *one* reason why >> this situation has come about, but it's far from being the only one. Here's >> a few others off the top of my head: >> >> - Owning so many things that even if there was zero pressure to >> deliver new features, the team still couldn't maintain everything that >> they >> own. >> - Incredibly powerful and incredibly complex features that teams are >> afraid of touching lest they break them and make community members angry. >> - Conservatism and fear of community outrage causing reluctance to >> deprecate functionality. >> - Lack of understanding of the impact of the feature. >> - Lack of a clear roadmap (a list of bug reports and feature requests >> is not a roadmap). >> >> There's more but those are some that come to the top of my head. And, not >> everyone one of those always applies to every situation, e.g. I definitely >> don't think all of the items in your list should be deprecated! >> >> This causes the path of least resistance to be, for everyone involved, to >> leave things in limbo and hope for the best. >> >> Dan >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/Y4YKOLNJKWAUQFNOVMZSKDSZRORSWFNB/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > -- > Boodarwun > Gnangarra > 'ngany dabakarn koorliny arn boodjera dardoon ngalang Nyungar > koortaboodjar' > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/P2JSB3JJ6ZOLPMBYV3EPYDP5RALWN7O6/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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