Note that quite often it just *makes up* a plausible-looking source.
Because AI text generators just make up plausible text, not accurate
text.

On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 09:40, Lane Chance <zinkl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Keep in mind how fast these tools change. ChatGPT, Bard and
> competitors understand well the issues with lack of sources, and Bard
> does sometimes put a suitable source in a footnote, even if it
> (somewhat disappointingly) just links to wikipedia. There's likely to
> be a variation soon that does a decent job of providing references,
> and at that point the role of these tools moves beyond being an
> amusement to a far more credible research tool.
>
> So, these long discussions about impact on open knowledge are quite
> likely to have to run again in 2024...
>
> On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 09:24, Kiril Simeonovski
> <kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you everyone for your input.
> >
> > Your considerations are very similar to mine, and they give a clear 
> > direction towards what the guidelines regarding the use of ChatGPT should 
> > point to.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Kiril
> >
> > On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 10:11, Ilario valdelli <valde...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Define "reliable source".
> >>
> >> A source is reliable if can be consulted by other people than the editor
> >> to check the content.
> >>
> >> Is this possible with ChatGPT? No, becaue if you address the same
> >> question to CHatGPT, you will have a different answer.
> >>
> >> In this case how the people verificaying the information can check that
> >> the editor did not invent the result?
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> On 17/05/2023 09:08, Kiril Simeonovski wrote:
> >> > Dear Wikimedians,
> >> >
> >> > Two days ago, a participant in one of our edit-a-thons consulted
> >> > ChatGPT when writing an article on the Macedonian Wikipedia that did
> >> > not exist on any other language edition. ChatGPT provided some output,
> >> > but the problem was how to cite it.
> >> >
> >> > The community on the Macedonian Wikipedia has not yet had a discussion
> >> > on this matter and we do not have any guidelines. So, my main
> >> > questions are the following:
> >> >
> >> > * Can ChatGPT be used as a reliable source and, if yes, how would the
> >> > citation look like?
> >> >
> >> > * Are there any ongoing community discussions on introducing guidelines?
> >> >
> >> > My personal opinion is that ChatGPT should be avoided as a reliable
> >> > source, and only the original source where the algorithm gets the
> >> > information from should be used.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Kiril
> >> >
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