Hello Samuel,

I agree with you that we need

...to iterate towards a working charter and council, this year, with
shorter cycles and public collaboration and broad participation by
individual contributors, not just affiliates.

However, you may be unaware that Lorenzo, Rosie and I are in the process of
the board elections, so I don't think that any of us are able to make a
firm commitment to catalyzing a successful charter + council.

Victoria

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 6:52 PM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Lorenzo,
>
> Thanks for the fast turnaround on this response.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024, 10:10 AM Lorenzo <ll...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> *From an operational capacity perspective, any delay now would also
>> require postponing other planned movement-wide processes with an impact
>> that goes beyond the movement charter.*
>>
>
> This is a self-imposed constraint that takes the Charter less seriously
> than it merits.
>
> * specifically our recommendation talks about moving forward this year by
>> shifting some of the functions that have been proposed for the Global
>> Council to global, community-representing bodies, and iterating over those
>> models
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Board_liaisons_reflections_on_final_Movement_charter_draft#Wikimedia_Foundation%E2%80%99s_commitment:_what_to_do_irrespective_of_the_outcome_of_the_ratification_vote>.
>> *
>>
>
> That's good, we need more like this. As part of a global council, which we
> also need to iterate over.
>
> *We are also in conversation with the MCDC about what would be the future
>> of the movement charter itself if the currently proposed charter doesn't
>> pass the ratification. Despite the concerns about the current draft, we all
>> support the goals intended by  a charter. *
>>
>
> Let's have that conversation publicly, as a movement.  We can do better
> than this mix of private communication with the committee + frustrated
> public letters.
>
> For instance, starting with a clear commitment to iterate towards a
> working charter and council, this year, with shorter cycles and public
> collaboration and broad participation by individual contributors, not just
> affiliates.
>
> Given the uncertainty of the current moment, it would be clarifying for
> you or other Board representatives to make a firm commitment to catalyzing
> a successful charter + council. Something stronger than 'supporting the
> goals and conversing about what the future could hold'.
>
> Cordially,
> Sam.
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