A nice thing is that the AI I've been using (mostly ChatGPT) seems to
understand well how Wikipedia works, and often displays a kind of
veneration for our work (it knows where it gets their stuff), often open
and shamelessly displays Wikipedia as "source" and in general shows us in a
very positive light to whoever asks. I believe it may have a positive
effect in outreach and engagement.

Paulo



Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> escreveu (terça, 15/10/2024 à(s) 11:44):

> Kaya
>
> AI doesnt excel in anything, it can only be a copy of the sources it uses,
> that does include Wikipedia regardless of which language project it is.
>
> Our benefit is being "neutral" in both how we write and what we write
> about, like Paulo just said its fun to dig into various topics including
> controversial stuff.   Science can be as if more controversial than people,
> politics, or religion but our goal is to "Share the sum of all knowledge"
> to do less is a disservice to those seeking genuine unbias content.
>
> I'd much prefer a world where Wikipedia is the only source, but if AI is
> going to exist and what we do makes it regurgitate better information then
> that's good.
>
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 18:08, Anders Wennersten <m...@anderswennersten.se>
> wrote:
>
>> We often write, somewhat stressed, that AI is a threat to us and that
>> the accusation us having a bias in our articles hurts our credibility.
>>
>> I think we should look at our reality with another view. We have by now
>> a huge number of very good articles on entities being typical
>> encyclopedian, like oxygen or Stockholm. AI will not create better
>> articles and no one calls them biased. And we have a huge number of very
>> dull articles, like all the lakes in Canada, where AI can not produce
>> anything as good, and no one calls them biased.
>>
>> For the one called biased I have found they represent about 0,01% of
>> all, and when I talk with readers, they anyway say they do not trust
>> Wikipedia (based on the subject, not the actual content) on these
>> entries and the proportion of readers finding fact on these things in
>> Wikipedia  compared with other sources are l relative low (specially
>> compared with the typical encyclopedian entries). Why do we spend so
>> much energy on these few articles that anyway gives us very little or
>> no/negative credit? I half seriously on my home wiki is trying to launch
>> the concept of the "dull Wikipedia". Where we write very short articles,
>> with only dull basics, of these controversial subjects and also avoid
>> the juicy content of of individuals even if it takes a lot of volume in
>> media.
>>
>> Why not concentrate and be proud of the thing we are best in.
>> Noncontroversial standard encyclodedan entries, including marginal
>> subjects? And leave the controversial subjects to the media, and the
>> subjects where AI excels in  to that realm? And forget concept like
>> click rate. And be proud to the good we are doing
>>
>> Anders
>>
>>
>>
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