Aside from content, there is also the under discussed risk of certain Wikipedia
editors being at risk for deportation for contributing content to Wikipedia the
administration does not agree with and the border staff have been able to
identify them
So even if Wikipedia itself isn’t at risk, the editors could be and therefore
any future content or contributions
James
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 10:00, Paulo Santos Perneta
<[paulospern...@gmail.com](mailto:On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 10:00, Paulo Santos
Perneta <<a href=)> wrote:
> The full DOGE hearing of March 26 at the house is available here, in case
> anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4GTSB6Kv8
>
> BTW, I don't like the notion that we can't talk publicly about stuff because
> we would be telling others how to put beans up the nose.
> Yes, there is an obvious risk for the WMF, and yes, it's also related to
> content, as a US court can effectively command WMF to change or eliminate
> content despite whatever the community may wish, as has happened in the past.
>
> Paulo
>
> Gnangarra < gnanga...@gmail.com> escreveu (segunda, 31/03/2025 à(s) 09:35):
>
>> Many people and governments have had attempts at having a go at Wikipedia
>> and segments of the movement, I dont have any major concerns about The WMF
>> and its staff being capable of dealing with issues that may arise. Please
>> remember that the WMF has no editorial control over content; it is just a
>> service provider, and content is in the hands of the community. There are
>> areas of risk greater than content but again the WMF will have prepared risk
>> assessments and be actively watching for potential impacts.
>>
>> I would like to remind people that these lists are public and that in the
>> interest of not putting beans up anyone's noses lets exercise trust in those
>> doing difficult jobs at this point in time.
>>
>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 at 10:09, Paulo Santos Perneta <
>> paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> At the last week House audition over PBS and NPR, Taylor Greene and other
>>> Republicans repeatedly referred to Wikipédia (in the context of former
>>> employer of Katherine Maher) as a "well known source of fake news" or
>>> something to the likes of that. I have no doubts that they will go after
>>> WMF and Wikipedia in general at some point in the near future.
>>>
>>> Paulo
>>>
>>> Chris Keating < chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> escreveu (domingo, 30/03/2025
>>> à(s) 21:44):
>>>
>>>> Hi Novem,
>>>>
>>>> Setting aside the question of whether the Smithsonian is really part of
>>>> the Federal Government (not quite; it's a trust established by Congress
>>>> with a governing body made up of members of all arms of the US
>>>> government...) -
>>>>
>>>> The Trump administration isn't worrying too much about the legality of
>>>> some of its executive orders, so the WMF not being part of the federal
>>>> government isn't that much relief. A scenario where the administration
>>>> threatens the WMF in order to attempt to enforce some of the
>>>> administration's wishes is, though perhaps not entirely likely, worryingly
>>>> plausible. Such threats could be made against the WMF itself, its assets,
>>>> its technical infrastructure, or individuals related to the WMF (including
>>>> project volunteers).
>>>>
>>>> To James' original point - doubtless the WMF is thinking carefully about
>>>> how to avoid such a scenario, and how to react to it if such a thing
>>>> became reality. However the WMF's usual approach when dealing with rogue
>>>> states threatening the integrity of Wikipedia seems to be that it would be
>>>> unhelpful (indeed, counterproductive) to be too public about such scenario
>>>> planning).
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 8:50 PM < novemling...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not the WMF, but I believe the part "I not[e] that the HQ of
>>>>> Wikipedia is in America and so it would be subject to any executive order
>>>>> request, just as the smithothian museums have been" is incorrect.
>>>>> Executive orders in USA are used by the president to give orders to the
>>>>> federal government. The Wikimedia Foundation is not the federal
>>>>> government so is not directly subject to executive orders. The
>>>>> Smithsonian, on the other hand, is the federal government.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Novem Linguae
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