Hi, Secondly, I'd love to see initiative outside of enwiki. If you look at all > the ~1000 Wikimedia projects, almost all of them are seeing an increase in > traffic ; only a few big old wikipedias are seeing a decrease (which are > also the ones with the most traffic, hence why it's more visible but it > obfuscate at the big picture)
Based on stats total pageviews of human users of all wikis are dropping - https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/all-projects/reading/total-page-views/normal|bar|all|(agent)~user|monthly Br, -- Kimmo Virtanen, Zache On Thu, Jul 9, 2026 at 9:13 AM Nicolas VIGNERON via Wikimedia-l < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi y'all, > > First could someone remind me how much traffic comes from Google (I have a > vague memory from last year that this is already very low - maybe 10 or 20 > % - and that LLMs are already bringing more traffic to Wikipedia, if true > we essentially are at Google Zero already). > > Secondly, I'd love to see initiative outside of enwiki. If you look at all > the ~1000 Wikimedia projects, almost all of them are seeing an increase in > traffic ; only a few big old wikipedias are seeing a decrease (which are > also the ones with the most traffic, hence why it's more visible but it > obfuscate at the big picture). > I think we should start by looking at and learning from the "successful" > projects instead of focusing on the declining ones. For instance, > Wikisources always have been badly to not-at-all referenced by Google and > yet there is a strong increase in pageviews recently. > > Cheers, > Nicolas > > Le jeu. 9 juil. 2026 à 03:38, Michael Snow via Wikimedia-l < > [email protected]> a écrit : > >> On 7/8/2026 12:52 PM, Luis Villa via Wikimedia-l wrote: >> > - Scale of impact is important, but it isn’t everything. Sometimes >> > we’ll have to build things without knowing if they’ll scale, or even >> > perhaps knowing that they won’t scale (eg Depths of Wikipedia is one >> > of the best community-builders we have even though it has “only” a few >> > million followers). “That’s good but it won’t scale to enwiki” can >> > never be allowed to be a blocker for anyone. If the experiment is >> > actually great, then we’ll figure out a way to get it onto enwiki. Or >> > not! That shouldn’t stop people. >> >> At this point, no single initiative (whether community, chapter, or >> WMF-led) will have an inherent capacity to scale to enwiki. To do so >> would require corporate-style resources with a corresponding top-down >> mandate for implementation, and risk (rightly) triggering resistance to >> the point of launching a true durable fork, for once. Instead, the best >> approach would be to find ideas that are good enough to propagate, >> encourage them, and when they have propagated enough, they will scale >> with relatively little intervention needed. >> >> --Michael Snow >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/6EQOFSG34E3BC6FIYL55HYBTQBAW4XFN/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/4WPCSTZNDMBDMYHWHV27BN2EZLGY5LXB/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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