Nice notes, Brion, et al!  Sorry I couldn't make it to the Noisebridge
meetup.  I tried but gave up after I would have been more than an hour
late due to circumstances beyond my control.

I added a point in the Meetingworks notes about my recommendations --
in -- specifically that trying to
piggyback on a Canada chapter wouldn't be as good. There would be a
huge legal advantage to a separate but affiliated nonprofit mutual
benefit corporation, able to compete with the Foundation on several
measures that the Foundation isn't even measuring at present.  Aren't
nonprofits in Canada restricted on certain political issues in a way
that California nonprofit mutual benefit corporations are not?
Canadians are often forbidden from commenting on high profile court
cases, including internet speech issues that often arise, and I
imagine a Canadian Chapter might have similar restrictions.

I am taking Erik Moeller's advice and trying to implement the software
parts of my recommendations at present.  It is going faster than I
expected so far, but not by much.

If anyone wants to revive the Stanford bid for Wikimania 2012, please
be my guest (it's just sitting there on Meta, and the listed campus
point of contact is still willing to be), but since Karen Sue Rolph
doesn't think it would be a good idea, as she mentioned on the
Wikimedia California list recently, I'm not willing to work on it any
further.  I would rather help out the nonprofit venues than a private
school, especially since Stanford has recently severely restricted its
policy for full text on campus online access to materials in their
libraries and archives.

Best regards,
James Salsman

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Brion Vibber <> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Pete Forsyth <>
> wrote:
>> A few of us are meeting up at 6pm tomorrow at Noisebridge, in the Mission,
>> to talk about all things wiki. We'll be greeting Mark Dilley, an awesome
>> Portland-based wiki guy who's on his way back from facilitating
>> RecentChangesCamp Canberra, in Australia -- and presumably full of great
>> wiki tales (especially relating to academia, I believe).
> And indeed there were some interesting tales. :D
>> There's a signup page (which we've all been sort of ignoring) on their
>> wiki:
>> and a MeetingNotes page for building an agenda, if you're feeling all
>> organization-y:
> We all took some notes on the meetingwords (etherpad) page, go take a look!
> -- brion
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