Liam,

This seems a commonsense approach, and I endorse it.  Obviously, I think 
that giving these talks to relevant educational institutions is a productive 
use of our time, and it should be a duly authorised representative of WM-au 
rather than plain old Craig Franklin doing the contacting and setting these 
discussions up.  I think we're going to look a lot more professional and 
have a better chance of success doing this than just having "some guy" show 
up and offer to give a talk.  I think it's probably best that the Education 
Department (whichever one it is) makes a request of the chapter, and then 
they send out the appropriate person, after all of the checks are done.

Obviously, given the above, I am willing to volunteer my time to do this in 
southeast Queensland, I'm just not going to contact EQ without us first 
working out a strategy for making contact (unless we've already been 
contacted by EQ/DETA, does anyone know?)

Regards,
Craig F.

-------------------
Craig Franklin
PO Box 1093
Toombul, Q, 4012
Australia
http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, 
and Culture.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Liam Wyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Wikimedia-au" <wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:05 PM
Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] English Teachers' Association 
presentation


>I don't speak for WM-Au but I suppose it would be good if those who
> went to speak at schools were:
> a) paid-up members of the chapter (which reminds me - I must actually
> send my money...)
> b) had proof of criminal records check by whichever means is
> appropriate e.g. official school visitation number
> c) were on a list held at the chapter-wiki of recognised
> representatives of the chapter (how "recognised" is defined I will
> not presume to determine by myself)
>
> So, I suggest that those who are interested in doing school visits
> attempt to get formal permission for all the state's schools for WM-
> Au through whatever mechanism is relevant to that state's education
> dept. The permission should be for WM-Au first and the individual as
> a representative of that organisation - not the other way around.
> Keep our ABN/consumer affairs rego. number handy for this purpose.
>
> WM-Au should then keep a list of those people who are "approved", the
> State and city in which they live, and their particular skills/
> qualifications.
>
> I will continue to try to contact the NSW department of Education and
> Training (DET) on the above basis and report back any progress.
>
> -Liam
>
> p.s. On another point, we should be thinking of putting together
> educational resources to give to teachers when we/if we do speak to
> them. For example - the "cheat sheet" for media-wiki editing, some
> important press about WM (such as the famous "Nature" study), and
> some examples of correct Wikipedia citation/usage.
>
>
> On 01/12/2008, at 10:19 PM, Craig Franklin wrote:
>
>> Does this mean I should contact Education Queensland and offer my
>> services
>> as a speaker?  I'd rather not lecture to children, but maybe
>> talking to some
>> teachers might help clear up some of the misunderstandings about
>> the project
>> that seem to be endemic in EQ.  Or would I need to be accredited by
>> WM-au
>> before I could count as a "volunteer guest"?
>>
>>
>> -------------------
>> Craig Franklin
>> PO Box 1093
>> Toombul, Q, 4012
>> Australia
>> http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie
>> Music, Art,
>> and Culture.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Zero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Wikimedia-au" <wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:43 PM
>> Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] English Teachers' Association
>> presentation
>>
>>
>>> Just answering my own question of 10 minutes ago, I found an FAQ for
>>> who needs a blue card in QLD, and it affirmed my guess. We're exempt
>>> if it's for guest speaking.
>>>
>>> http://www.ccypcg.qld.gov.au/employment/bluecard/faqs/
>>> faqs_guest_speakers_volunteer.html
>>>
>>> Specifically, you don't need a card If you are "a volunteer guest
>>> of a
>>> school or registered charity, incorporated association or corporation
>>> for 10 days or less on no more than two occasions per year for the
>>> purpose of observing or supplying information or entertainment to 10
>>> or more people, who is unlikely to be physically present with a child
>>> while no other adult is present"
>>>
>>> As I presumed before, a blue card's not required. There are probably
>>> slight variations according to each state, but I bet that it's the
>>> same general idea.
>>>
>>> For something further, like a workshop for how to use wikis, would
>>> probably require a card though. I don't know about the "approved
>>> visitor" list from the department, but that means we could personally
>>> have two lists, depending on what we wish to do. People who can do
>>> volunteer speaking, and those who can do works in actual classes.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Zero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean it's not required for WMA purposes, though? Do you
>>>> mean that the check probably isn't needed because this is just guest
>>>> speaking? It's not like we're undertaking employment or interacting
>>>> with children on a regular basis, so that makes sense.
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Always here,
>>> Zero
>>>
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