On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Peter Halasz <qub...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Non members can explain here why they want to be able to edit our >> wiki; we are listening. > > I'm not engaging in this debate again. It's been argued to death > already. It's ridiculously obvious to me why it WMAU should be > editable, and the fact that it still isn't tells me that WMAU is > either moving at a glacial pace or is being run by people who simply > do not share my values.
I agree it has been discussed to death. Almost everyone agrees that it should be open, so discussing that again is pointless. However use-cases are not pointless; knowing what non-members what to do *now* means we focus on permitting those things *now*. If non-members just want to comment on proposals, we can work out how to allow talk page access. If non-members want to develop proposals, we can give accounts to non-members we trust for this purpose. A more basic question is why are non-members still non-members? If it is cost, perhaps we should change our membership fees. In the past there has been disagreement about how open our website should be, and how we administrate being open. Being 'open' introduces new problems and new workloads, and we need to have a solution to those problems. My biggest concern is that open editing is going to be left for the committee to administrate. The committee should not be doing this; it will result in us being dragged to court. The membership has not shown a great deal of interest in helping build the wiki over the past few years. If a member steps up and _commits_ to be the 'crat' / 'webmaster', and that person asks for open editing, the committee *will* vote on it. Another option is for the committee to hand over the responsibility of managing the website to one of the ordinary members, and to allow them to manage it how they see fit. Do we want new non-member accounts to continue to go via ConfirmAccount?  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount IMO, the answer is yes; we definitely do not want unhappy Wikipedia subjects to be allowed to have accounts and be able to rant on our website. If so, what is our policy on who can have accounts and their usernames? Who is going to decide what content is acceptable or not? These questions are just the tip of the iceberg. -- John Vandenberg _______________________________________________ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaauemail@example.com https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l