On 25 February 2013 11:28, Rodrigo wrote: > This http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Planned_chapters, > continues with lies, we are waiting for your answers and we didn't make any > moves.
First of all, let me mention that calling anything that's posted on that page "a lie" is either an emotional overstatement or an example of not assuming good faith. Seeing that the discussion between Wikimedia Brasil and this Committee has already been quite an emotional one--and this applies to the past Chapters Committee, too, as far as I see--I would have hoped that your communication with us wouldn't contain such allegations. To get to the point, however, I would welcome an explanation of what part of "Incorporated without AffCom approval, against advice. Slowly on-going conversation at Wikimedia_Brasil/AffCom" is not true. > If you take longer than two weeks, we predict that we will not able to > perform the WLM, which was a activities designed for this year, but we need > a government permission to conduct any contest in Brazil. The process of recognising a Wikimedia group as a chapter takes much more than that; reviewing bylaws, putting a Commitee resolution to a vote, and waiting for an official resolution from the Board of Trustess would take at least about six weeks in a perfect world--and seeing that the one we live in is /not/ perfect, I guess that there is no chance to approve Wikimedia Brasil in two weeks. > As the process is not transparent, we do not know what are the questions > that you still have, so please, if you have them, do not come into contact > with our volunteers individually, and ask the questions on Meta > (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brasil/AffCom) and we will respond > as soon as possible. As far as I see, there is at least one question that I asked on October 9 that still has not received an answer from any of the members of Wikimedia Brasil. Because it concerns the contents of your bylaws versus the reality, I would very much like to see it answered. > Also, I want a formal and open statement from AffCom about this assertion: > "Incorporated without AffCom approval, against advice" I, on the other hand, want a formal and open statement from Wikimedia Brasil about this article <http://blogs.estadao.com.br/link/wikimedia-brasil-sera-fundada-amanha/>, and especially the opening sentence: "Nesta sexta-feira, 12, voluntários brasileiros da enciclopédia virtual Wikipédia vão institucionalizar suas atividades e fundar a Wikimedia Brasil." as well as a short overview of what happened between 16:00 and 18:00 on October 12, 2012, during the WikiBrasil conference <https://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiBrasil_2012>. It is my belief that letting us know about that would greatly enhance the cooperation between Wikimedia Brasil and this Committee, and would be a huge step in moving forward the recognition of your group as a Wikimedia chapter. PS I am CC-ing both the Affiliations Commitee and Wikimedia Brasil's mailing list to this e-mail for transparency's sake. When replying to this message, please keep both parties in the CC, so we don't lose track of things. Thank you. -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]] _______________________________________________ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBRfirstname.lastname@example.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l