Dear all, I would like to add a few things to the discussion, mostly based on our current experiences with the launch of the TAO project website (http://www.thirdageonline.eu/), for which many requirements were the same as for the future Wikimedia CH website.
1) I can confirm that the cooperation with Sehsinn (Sami Kaddoura) has been very positive and straightforward. There are a few basic things, like the main structure, the multilingual functioning, and the identification of "static" vs. "dynamic" contents of the site that take quite some time to be sorted out at the beginning, before the site design can start. It may be possible to speed up the process if you take the TAO project website as a reference from where to define the requirements for the Wikimedia CH site (working with the same web designer would help in this case). 2) Choice of the CMS: Compared to the TAO website, there seems to be one big difference concerning the requirements for the wikimedia.ch CMS - the future contributors of the Wikimedia CH website are already familiar with MediaWiki, which is not necessariliy the case for TAO, and the ease of copying content from an internal Wiki to the public website may be a strong argument in favor of MediaWiki. In case someone wants to get a feel of Wordpress, I can offer you an account on the TAO-Website and, depending on your availability, I could also provide you with some "real" tasks, which is probably the best way to get to know a CMS. 3) Interactivity: One aspect I am missing on your requirements list is the degree of interactivity you want for your site - do you want to get feedback to your posts and allow for n:n communication (blog with the possibility of posting comments or discussion forum)? In developping the TAO website, we decided not to allow for interaction in a first step (but to leave the possibility open in the future, which would not be very costly from a development point of view). There are several reasons for this decision: (1) From our point of view, interaction about TAO activities should first and foremost take place on the community partners' platforms - we do not want to create an additional community platform; (2) Allowing for interactivity means more work: you need to be ready to "police" contributions in order to fight SPAM or disruptive behaviour, and you need to have people and time to actively participate in the interaction; (3) In the start version of the website, we have translated some of the blog posts, meaning that you would expect a discussion about a post to take place on several language versions in parallel - this does not make much sense. (4) In order to avoid some of the aforementioned problems, we have set up a Facebook group for the project (discussions are presently going on about transforming it into a Facebook page instead). On Facebook, several languages could coexist in one setting, and policing for SPAM and disruptive behavior would probably be less of an issue, as it does not happen on the "official" Website. On the other hand, it allows for an open feedback culture with n:n communication (which I think would be valuable); if we can get this going on Facebook, there may be no need to have any interactivity on the project Website itself. 4) On the content side, I would also expect a description of concrete possibilities for participation in the association's activities. It might be helpful to show the visitors in which areas the various working groups need a hand and which are the additional competencies required. Best, Beat Estermann ________________________________________ From: wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Manuel Schneider [manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:53 AM To: Mailing list for Wikimedia CH Subject: Re: [Wikimediach-l] [Executive] Web site, proposals Dear all, today I approach you in my position as CIO of Wikimedia CH. In the past we had several discussions about a relaunch of the current website. We have asked for input on content / features as well as ideas for a "swiss design": * http://www.wikimedia.ch/Site_web * http://www.wikimedia.ch/Website_2011 The list of features more or less is equal with that what the webteam has came up with in 2008 and that has been implemented in the current website. On the other hand we all agree that the current website needs a graphical relaunch - at the moment it doesn't have any graphical concept and neither Wikimedia CH in general has. Ludovic and I have collected proposals for the relaunch. After a analysis of what we have received I have compiled a list and ask you for feedback: * http://www.wikimedia.ch/Website_2011#Evaluation_of_Offers As announced by our president, the website topic will be on the agenda at the General Assembly on April 30th * http://www.wikimedia.ch/General_Assembly_2011 Thanks for your attention and input, /Manuel after having done an analyses of the quotations On 25.02.2011 11:52, charles andres wrote: > /I forward you this e-mail without the attachment, it seems that antivirus > filtering block it. charles/ > > Hi guys, > > I am sharing with you the attached documents that Ludo has submitted to > > > the Board following his initiative on a new website. > > Please note the site hosting is a standard option for each of the offers, > so this would be discussed later on. There is also an opportunity to > implement the payment gateway about which we previously. > > > > Manuel, your input would be particularly interesting concerning these > different aspects. > > Regards, > Mourad > > http://board.wikimedia.ch/File:Evaluation_for_Web_site.pdf > > > > PS: individual offer can be send directly by mail just ask, to ludo or I. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Executive mailing list > execut...@wikimedia.ch > http://lists.wikimedia.at/listinfo/executive -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch _______________________________________________ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l _______________________________________________ http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l