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Today's Topics:

   1. Meeting with Fed. Office for Civil Protection - Section
      Cultural Property Protection (Estermann Beat)
   2. Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Meeting with Fed. Office for Civil
      Protection - Section Cultural Property Protection (Alexander Wagner)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 16:30:03 +0200
From: Estermann Beat <beat.esterm...@bfh.ch>
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        <wikimediach-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph
        Competition (wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org)"
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Subject: [Wikimediach-l] Meeting with Fed. Office for Civil Protection
        - Section Cultural Property Protection
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Dear all,

Yesterday, I have met with the people responsible for the protection of 
cultural properties at the Federal Office for Civil Protection in Switzerland.
The minutes (in German) can be found here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Schweizer_Denkmallisten/Meeting_mit_dem_FB_KGS_vom_23._Mai_2013

Here a summary:


-       They are happy to help us with the monuments lists in their area of 
competence (in addition to the lists of cultural properties of national and 
regional significance which are handled at the national level, there are also 
cantonal and municipal monuments lists which they are not responsible for).

-       They are positive about Wiki Loves Monuments; the same is true for the 
cantonal instances they are in contact with (monument protection services / 
civil protection services).

-       They promised to provide us with database dumps, including all the 
KGS-identifiers (A- and B-objects; identifiers of B objects have been missing 
so far) by the end of May / beginning of June.

-       They will take measures to facilitate the updating of the lists on 
Wikipedia in the future (clearly indicating changes on their lists; making 
database dumps available).

-       They ask us not to use the official white-blue cultural-property sign 
for any other objects than KGS class A objects and not to use similar signs 
either (in fact the use of the official sign is regulated by international law 
and Swiss law) - This should be taken into account when designing the 
interfaces of information systems (map applications, phone apps, etc.)

-       They gave us recommendations in order to avoid complications due to the 
different semantic systems at various federal levels

-       They will be happy to get informed about any corrections made by the 
community.

So, and now I hope that the 26+ cantonal and municipal authorities responsible 
for the rest of the monuments will be as cooperative as the federal ones! ;-)

Kind regards,
Beat Estermann

_____________________________________________________
Beat Estermann
Research Associate
Berne University of Applied Sciences
E-Government Institute
Morgartenstrasse 2a
Postfach 305
CH-3000 Bern 22
beat.esterm...@bfh.ch
www.e-government.bfh.ch
Phone +41 31 848 34 30
Phone (direct number) +41 31 848 34 38
Fax +41 31 848 34 31

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Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 16:41:41 +0200
From: Alexander Wagner <alexander.wag...@wikipedia.at>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediach-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Meeting with Fed.
        Office for Civil Protection - Section Cultural Property Protection
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Wow, great to hear!

Greets
--
Alexander Wagner
User:AleXXw <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:AleXXw>

Mit freundlicher Unterstützung von: Wikimedia Österreich - Gesellschaft zur
Förderung freien Wissens


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Estermann Beat <beat.esterm...@bfh.ch>wrote:

> Dear all,****
>
> ** **
>
> Yesterday, I have met with the people responsible for the protection of
> cultural properties at the Federal Office for Civil Protection in
> Switzerland.****
>
> The minutes (in German) can be found here:****
>
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Schweizer_Denkmallisten/Meeting_mit_dem_FB_KGS_vom_23._Mai_2013
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Here a summary:****
>
> ** **
>
> **-       **They are happy to help us with the monuments lists in their
> area of competence (in addition to the lists of cultural properties of
> national and regional significance which are handled at the national level,
> there are also cantonal and municipal monuments lists which they are not
> responsible for).****
>
> **-       **They are positive about Wiki Loves Monuments; the same is
> true for the cantonal instances they are in contact with (monument
> protection services / civil protection services).****
>
> **-       **They promised to provide us with database dumps, including
> all the KGS-identifiers (A- and B-objects; identifiers of B objects have
> been missing so far) by the end of May / beginning of June.****
>
> **-       **They will take measures to facilitate the updating of the
> lists on Wikipedia in the future (clearly indicating changes on their
> lists; making database dumps available).****
>
> **-       **They ask us not to use the official white-blue
> cultural-property sign for any other objects than KGS class A objects and
> not to use similar signs either (in fact the use of the official sign is
> regulated by international law and Swiss law) – This should be taken into
> account when designing the interfaces of information systems (map
> applications, phone apps, etc.)****
>
> **-       **They gave us recommendations in order to avoid complications
> due to the different semantic systems at various federal levels****
>
> **-       **They will be happy to get informed about any corrections made
> by the community.****
>
> ** **
>
> So, and now I hope that the 26+ cantonal and municipal authorities
> responsible for the rest of the monuments will be as cooperative as the
> federal ones! ;-)****
>
> ** **
>
> Kind regards,****
>
> Beat Estermann ****
>
> ** **
>
> _____________________________________________________ ****
>
> Beat Estermann
> Research Associate****
>
> Berne University of Applied Sciences
> E-Government Institute
> Morgartenstrasse 2a
> Postfach 305
> CH-3000 Bern 22  ****
>
> beat.esterm...@bfh.ch
> www.e-government.bfh.ch ****
>
> Phone +41 31 848 34 30
> Phone (direct number) +41 31 848 34 38
> Fax +41 31 848 34 31 ****
>
> ** **
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
> wikilovesmonume...@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
>
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