Thanks to Robin for the details.
I'm sorry and I agree with him that my mentioned points for Wikimedia CH are
not (now?) that important than I wrote in my first posting.
I had in my mind the lessons from school when we were discussing this point and
forgot, that the big change is only for associations bigger than the
requirements mentioned in Art. 69b I. According to our tutor I had in my mind
that the "eingeschränkte Revision" (I don't know the term in en) is also
foreseen for normal associations but not only for companies.
But I agree with Robin that the auditor must have minimum knowledge about
bookkeeping. The problem with "One can learn it rather quickly" is, that such a
person can not see any evil constructs made by the treasurer. I don't expect
such things but we have to think about it before it happens (*knocking on
Before we begin to nominate persons for specific jobs I propose to evaluate the
departements of the board and create "job profiles". IMO there are:
- president (what is he doing beside of beeing president?)
- treasurer (as discussed)
- public affairs (therefore it would be great to have Nando in the board)
- technics (?)
- project coordination (?)
any other departements in sight?
Zitat von Robin Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Jürg Wolf schrieb:
> > I would like to remind here, that we even need some Auditors. This year it
> > won't be that important but by the revision of the OR (which will go
> > live by begin of 2007), it is foreseen, that the auditors must have a
> > special education in bookkeeping. This means any kind of education
> > beyond of simple "milk-book-calculation". Balance sheet analysis
> > is minimum. Therefore the audience of potential auditors is not that big...
> Thank you for reminding us. I did not think of it till today. Regarding
> qualification of revisors I'd like to add that I did not see any
> allusions that there will be a big change. The proposed text says
> nothing about this as I understand it (IANYL), see
> http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/ff/2005/7289.pdf Art. 69b
> Nevertheless I fully agree that a auditor should be able to read a
> balance sheet and income statement. How else should he be able to verify
> it? But that's not so complicated anyway. One can learn it rather quickly.
> The more important question will be: Who becomes treasury man or woman?
> Would Jürg Studer accept doing it? He has/you have done it in other
> > I wrote the same note on http://ch.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board/Candidatures
> > In between I don't know if some persons realized their nomination for
> > board. In the last few days were nominated:
> > - Muvon53
> > - Robin Schwab
> > - Frederic Schutz
> > I would like to ask these persons to post a short statement, if they would
> > like to accept if they would be elected.
> Thank you Jürg for your nomination for the board. I'm willing to
> continue work like today e.g. organising events like Wikipedia day. At
> the present size of the association this will rather require a board
> membership therefore I accept the nomination as a board member. I rather
> do not see myself as a president as my talent in leading meetings is not
> so big.
> I see it as a chance to get a native Italian speaking member in the
> board or even as a president. Despite of this I'd like to get to know
> him/you personally before election.
> Patrik and Nando should decide about they prefer working as auditors or
> board members as these jobs are excluding each other.
> Kind regards
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