The questions of Jürg are correct. The text is changed like this:

"The Association shares the objectives of the Wikimedia Foundation,
Inc., a not-for-profit organisation based in Florida, USA."

before it was:

"The Association shall take the responsiblities of a section (Local
Chapter) of the Wikimedia Foundation Inc. (Florida, USA). The
Association's independence is not affected by this. The Wikimedia
Foundation acts as the umbrella organization for all national
Wikimedia sections."

The last sentence is the same: "The Wikimedia Foundation coordinates
the activities according to the Association's purpose within the
international sector and it manages the name Wikimedia as well as the
names of the various international Wikimedia projects."

All problem is to understand the verb "share". The previous sentence
was more clear, the new version is vague. In the new version we don't
analyze the meaning of this word. It should be "to divide in equal
parts" or "to partecipate with". The problem is: who decides?
Wikimedia Foundation decides and we should receive its guidelines? or,
like Jürg says, we couldn't share the objectives?

It's important to define this point to haven't problems later.

Ilario

On 4/5/06, Jürg Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Just some questions about something, that maybe is discussed before, while
> defining this section:
>
> * While Wikimedia CH _SHARES_ the objectives of the Wikimedia Foundation 
> _FULLY_
> (not only in parts), do we have the right to discuss and form these objectives
> actively or do we have to take whatever the Foundation decides, including a
> total change of goals and as a extreme a total commerzialisation?
>
> * If the Foundation decides something like this and the Swiss Chapter does not
> share this objective, what options do we have then?
>
> * Ist this wording a MUST if we want to be a Chapter of Wikimedia or can we 
> opt
> out in some subjects?
>
> * If we have a different point of view than the Foundation, the wording says,
> that we have nearly no rights to oppose against these subjects, because we 
> HAVE
> TO SHARE the objectives of the Foundation. My fear is, that we would become a
> simple puppet of the foundation (nothing against it by now!) instead of a
> self-contained association.
>
> * As a possible szenario (just in my mind by now - but not in reach), our
> association also want to support other software than the Wikimedia software,
> what the Foundation could stop by this wording. And we have no chance to do
> something against this directive.
>
> I know, these questions can only be asked by a person out of a direct 
> democratic
> structure, but as I read the posting, those thoughts rose in my mind.
>
> Jürg Wolf
>
> --
> Zitat von Delphine Ménard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > On 4/3/06, Michael Bimmler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Just to inform you:
> > > There is at the moment quite some talking going on at
> > > http://ch.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bylaws/En  about bylaws (reaction
> > > from ChapCom and the Legal Counsel of WMF)
> >
> >
> > I think all is resolved. Thank you for translating the part that we
> > changed [1] into the other languages so that it is repercuted in the
> > official translations of the bylaws.
> >
> > Please inform us when this is done at chaptercommittee-l AT wikimedia
> > PUNTO org so that we can give our advice to the board and finally be
> > done with it.
> >
> > [1]
> > The Association shares the objectives of the Wikimedia Foundation,
> > Inc., a not-for-profit organisation based in Florida, USA. The
> > Wikimedia Foundation coordinates activities along the lines of the
> > Association's purpose within the international sector, and manages the
> > name Wikimedia as well as the names of the various international
> > Wikimedia projects.
> >
> >
> > Delphine
> > --
> > ~notafish
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