Umm.. abt the Sanskrit Wiki.. User:Arunram has hosted one Wikipedia academy
in Bangalore, and has plans to hold more. The alst one was a success, and
several people have been 'inducted' by us into editing Wikipedia.. So I
guess, the manpower issue for one Wikipedia is gone eh? :D
Regards,

On 25 February 2010 05:17, Jyothis E <jyothi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Carry,
>
> I am aware of the country vs global factor and I am just comparing the man
> power available in each wiki. numbers does matter when it comes to fireworks
> and floods
>
> :-)
>
> Regards,
> Jyothis.
>
> http://www.Jyothis.net <http://www.jyothis.net/>
>
> http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
>
> woods are lovely dark and deep,
> but i have promises to keep and
> miles to go before i sleep and
> lines to go before I press sleep
>
> completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) /
> resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings
>
>
>
>   On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Cary Bass <c...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>>   Jyothis:
>>
>> I would like to point out that enwiki's 160,976 represents worldwide users
>> and not merely those from India, in case anyone misinterprets the data :)
>>
>> Cary Bass
>>
>>
>> On 2/24/2010 11:17 AM, Jyothis Edathoot wrote:
>>
>>  That probably explains it. I was wondering how you could be so casual
>> about man power to deal with such an event. If you look at our indic
>> wikipedias, We wouldnt see many hands to do the heavy lifting. For some
>> reason, many Indian wikipedians can work in en wiki, but wont really bother
>> to work in their own language wikipedias :-)
>>
>> Look at a few examples below:
>>
>> *Active users*
>> *
>> *
>> *en wiki - 160,976*
>> hi wiki - 237
>> ml wiki - 186
>> ta wiki 185
>> mr wiki 105
>> bpy wiki - two digits
>> gu wiki - two digit
>> kn wiki -two digits
>> or wiki - single digit
>> sa wiki - 35
>> pali - in two digits. I cant read that.
>> bh wiki - single digit
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jyothis.
>>
>> http://www.Jyothis.net <http://www.jyothis.net/>
>>
>> http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
>>
>> woods are lovely dark and deep,
>> but i have promises to keep and
>> miles to go before i sleep and
>> lines to go before I press sleep
>>
>> completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) /
>> resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>> rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My home wiki is enwiki, but I'm mostly busy on meta these days,
>>> co-ordinating English-Hindi projects.
>>>
>>>  On 24 February 2010 17:47, Jyothis Edathoot <j...@jyothis.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Srikanth,
>>>>
>>>> Which wiki is your home wiki?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jyothis.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.Jyothis.net <http://www.jyothis.net/>
>>>>
>>>> http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
>>>>
>>>> woods are lovely dark and deep,
>>>> but i have promises to keep and
>>>> miles to go before i sleep and
>>>> lines to go before I press sleep
>>>>
>>>> completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) /
>>>> resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>>> rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  So we need to keep a patrol dedicated to watching these guys.. But
>>>>> are they still doing it? I thought Google stopped? Besides, they're like
>>>>> lightenening.. You never know when or where they're gonna strike.. :D
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 24 February 2010 09:02, BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbe...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  In Tamil wiki too we're extremely concerned about quality. That's
>>>>>> why even GaneshBot was constrained. On this issue, we're keeping an open
>>>>>> mind and it's still in a pilot stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sundar from mobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jyothis Edathoot wrote:
>>>>>> > While we welcome the efforts and contributions, all wikis may not be
>>>>>> equipped with enuf active users to handle such a  flood. if a flood of 
>>>>>> low
>>>>>> quality articles or translations come by, such projects may take (much)
>>>>>> longer to recover and regain the drop of quality. While quantity benefits
>>>>>> out of such a flood, that may end up compromising the quality of the 
>>>>>> wiki.
>>>>>> It may not always in th interest of the local community.  Regards, 
>>>>>> Jyothis.
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>>>>> rsrikant...@gmail.com > wrote: Shiju,
>>>>>> >  Can't we just go ahead normally? If these Google guys make
>>>>>> mistakes, we just correct them and go on. If they resist, then explain or
>>>>>> warn them?
>>>>>> >  Regards,
>>>>>> >  On 23 February 2010 21:08, Shiju Alex < shijualexonl...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >  There should be proper co-ordination between each language
>>>>>> community and the Google. In Malayalam Wikipedia, we already tried
>>>>>> collaborative translation of some English Wiki articles 2 years back. But
>>>>>> that was a failure and we dropped that. One of the main issue with
>>>>>> word-to-word translation is that the entire article will have the 
>>>>>> sentences
>>>>>> constructed with artificial words and phrases. The reader will run away 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> that type of articles.
>>>>>> >  If there is no proper agreement between wiki community and Google
>>>>>> the community may resist. For the sake of Google translation, Wikis 
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> not not be flooded with articles. Some wikis might be interested in using
>>>>>> this service to increase the article count. But not all communities will
>>>>>> agree to that.
>>>>>> >  The problem of paid translation and word-to-word translation are
>>>>>> many. Each language community might have different issues regarding
>>>>>> word-to-word translation/paid translation. Each of them need to be 
>>>>>> addressed
>>>>>> separately.
>>>>>> >  So it is very important that Google agrees to the point mentioned
>>>>>> in the below mail, and there should be proper communication between 
>>>>>> Google
>>>>>> and respective language communities. Shiju
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >  On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Ravi shankar <
>>>>>> ravidreams...@yahoo.com > wrote:
>>>>>> >  Hi all, regarding the mail below: Sundar and I have initiated
>>>>>> contacts with Google on coordinating their article contributions.
>>>>>> > Google has agreed in principle for the demands below. We hope we can
>>>>>> update all Indian Wikis about the progress in this collaboration, say in 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> month or two. Then it may be a good model for all Indian Wikis to follow.
>>>>>> So, it may be a good idea for all Indian Wikis to wait during this 
>>>>>> period so
>>>>>> Google need not have to do the same consensus evolving approach with many
>>>>>> wikis.
>>>>>> >  Thanks, ravi
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >  From: Ravi shankar < ravidreams...@yahoo.com > To:
>>>>>> wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>>> >  Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 11:30:27 AM Subject: Coordinating
>>>>>> Google translation kit articles
>>>>>> >  Hi all, Following the recent Wiki meet in Bangalore, Sundar (Tamil
>>>>>> Wikipedian) brought to our notice that Google is contributing to various
>>>>>> Indian language Wikis using Google translation kit and paid translators. 
>>>>>> In
>>>>>> Tamil Wiki, we feel a strong need to corordinate / organize this activity
>>>>>> andwe hope it is the same situation in many Indian language wikis.
>>>>>> >  So, may I propose that we discuss this in this mailing list and
>>>>>> send a common notification from Indian language wikis to Google India? To
>>>>>> begin with I propose the following. Please add to the list. 1. Google 
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> appoint one coordinator each for every Indian language wiki where they
>>>>>> contribute articles. This coordinator should be available to reach by 
>>>>>> mail
>>>>>> and be adequately responsive (Say, once a week at least). He will take
>>>>>> feedback from the wiki community and pass it to the paid contributors.
>>>>>> >  2. If Googe policy allows, they should know us the time frame and
>>>>>> scale of this operation so we can plan accordingly. 3. Google should not
>>>>>> translate existing articles because they are over riding previous
>>>>>> contributions.
>>>>>> >  4. Each Wiki can submit a list of needed articles and the
>>>>>> translators can consider giving priority from them. 5. Each Wiki can 
>>>>>> draft
>>>>>> an essential Manual of Style which the translators shall follow. 6. 
>>>>>> Based on
>>>>>> the responses for above, we shall periodically re-evaluate how we can
>>>>>> continue to cooperate with Google.
>>>>>> >  After we finalise the list , some one of us who has links with
>>>>>> Google India team can take this forward. Thanks, Ravi (Tamil Wiki)
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