Hi Sainu,

There is no procedure for attendance at the meeting.  You will find required
information on the venue and agenda of the meeting over here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore12

As a matter of courtesy, you may want to sign up as a participant on the
page with your wikihandle (if you have one).

Yours sincerely,

Anirudh Singh Bhati
Student of Law, Gujarat National Law University,
Gandhinagar, India.

Handphone: +919328712208
Skype: anirudhsbh

Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn’t deserve to be. —L. Neil
Smith.


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Sainu <mysa...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I wish to attend the meeting. What are the procedures for this? (Any
> registration needed)
>
>            Sainu
>            CEO
>            CYBROSYS Technologies
>
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>   2. Re: WikiMeetup - Bangalore -12 (CherianTinu Abraham)
>   3. Clarification, Apology and Plans. (Kiruba @ Kiruba.com)
>   4. Re: Wikimedia India Chapter (Shahid Akhtar)
>   5. Re: Wikimedia India Chapter (Gautam John)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:38:11 +0530
> From: CherianTinu Abraham <tinucher...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiMeetup - Bangalore -12
> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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> Since there was no consensus, we are keeping the date as same on march 12
> Please try to come.
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:44 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
> <tinucher...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Based on the request, I have created a poll at *
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore12*forboth
>  the dates.
> > *Please vote before march 8th *so that the logistics and other stuff can
> > be planned.
> >
> > Regards
> > Tinu Cherian
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik....@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> +1.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonl...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore12
> >>>
> >>> I suggest to reschedule this wiki meetup to* March 21*. The reason is,
> a
> >>> long weekend is coming during the March second week since Ugadi<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugadi>is falling on March 16 (Tuesday).
> >>>
> >>> Many Wikians might travel to their home town during that time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Shiju
> >>>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:14:41 +0530
> From: CherianTinu Abraham <tinucher...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiMeetup - Bangalore -12
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> Oops. The correct date is* March 14th, Sunday. *
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Thanks Anirudh for pointing it out.
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:03 PM, anirudhsbh (wiki)  wrote:
>
> > 10:03 PM anirudhsbh: Hi Tinu. Did you mean that the meet up would be on
> > March 14, or March 12 (that is, tomorrow)?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:26:05 +0530
> From: "Kiruba @ Kiruba.com" <kir...@kiruba.com>
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Clarification, Apology and Plans.
> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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> Hello team,
>
> Its great to see that there has been some concrete efforts to establish the
> Indian Chapter of Wikimedia Foundation.  After many years of repeated
> efforts, its good to see that we are close to fruitition.  There is a
> strong
> team with diverse background and rich involvement in Wikipedia working on
> this.  While I was initially part of this effort, I'm no longer involved
> with the formation of the foundation. There are times I overran myself in
> the assumption that Foundation formation time could happen sooner and
> assumed I'd be part of the board and hence a Director (designate) without
> realizing the really long gestation period it takes to set up the foudation
> or the confusion it would cause. In this regard, I apologise to the entire
> Wikipedia India community.
>
> I will continue to be associated with helping out with Wikipedia outreach
> and the concept of Open Knowledge on a personal level. This year, I'll help
> in organizing Creative Commons Salon (bringing in artists who believe in
> open creativity), Wikipedia Academy ( to teach people who interested in
> contributing but dont know how) and WikiCamp (an unconference that will aim
> to tap into the concept of collective wisdom using wikis, and not just
> Wikipedia).  I recently published a book 'Wikipedia : A beginners' Guide'
> which is completely on a CC license. I seek help in translating this into
> mulitple Indian languages and freely distribute this to school libraries in
> towns and villages. Any help in this regard would be highly welcome.  All
> these activies are done as a volunteer without assuming any formal
> positions
> and look forward to contributing actively.  I can be reached at 98415 97744
> and at kir...@kiruba.com.  Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Kiruba Shankar
> Cell: +91-0-98415 97744
> Email: kir...@kiruba.com
> Personal Blog: http://Kiruba.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kiruba
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> Date: 12 Mar 2010 07:17:04 -0000
> From: "Shahid Akhtar" <mohd.shahid_akh...@rediffmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
> To: <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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> On
>
>  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Praveen
> Prakash&nbsp;&lt;me.prav...@gmail.com<prakash%26nbsp%3b%26lt%3bme.prav...@gmail.com>
> &gt;&nbsp;wrote:
> K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar?&nbsp; What
>
>  was the election process &amp; criteria? How many people involved in
>
> that? Why all these process were hidden? Why even Hindi not informed?
>
>
>
>
> This is what I'm wondering about too! I think this process should be more
> inclusive and transparent!
>
> Who decided the list of founding members (Signatories) mentioned on this
> page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA#WIKIMEDIA_INDIA?
> And how was this list decided? How come Gautam K John (who is
> self-admittedly not involved with Wikipedia) was invited to be a founding
> member, but someone like User:Bhadani was not?
>
> Why is some like HPN who has not made even 100 edits in 2009 and 2010 to
>
>  English,
>
> Kannada and Sanskrit Wikipedias combined together is at the forefront of
>
>  this initiative, but some of the most important contributors from Indic
>
>  wikipedias are not even a part of this?
>
> I'm all for a Wikimedia India chapter, but it should be a group of
>
> all the people who are actually part of the Wikipedia community! It should
> not
>
> be a bunch of politicians that want to be face of Wikipedia to the Indian
> media without having made any substantial contributions to Wikipedia.
>
> Wikimedia India will receive thousands of rupees in donations. We need
> trusted people who are representative of the pan-India Wikipedia community
> to handle it.
>
>
>
> If this is a group of people who are meeting in Bangalore for wining and
> dining, this should be named "Wikimedia Bangalore" chapter, not "Wikipedia
> INDIA" chapter!
>
> Best regards
> Shahid
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:04:20 +0530
> From: Gautam John <gau...@prathambooks.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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> Hello Shahid and Praveen:
>
> > Who decided the list of founding members (Signatories) mentioned on this
> page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA#WIKIMEDIA_INDIA?
> And how was this list decided? How come Gautam K John (who is
> self-admittedly not involved with Wikipedia) was invited to be a founding
> member, but someone like User:Bhadani was not?
>
> It's a fair point you raise. The group arose out of those who had
> shown a previous communicated interest in being part of a local
> chapter formation. It wasn't a secretly selected group but one that
> came together basis a common and communicated cause. As for me, yes, I
> am not a Wikipedian and I accept that criticism. However, if I may
> make a point. An organization needs representation not just from
> within its own community but also from those outside who share the
> vision and the philosophy.
>
> > I'm all for a Wikimedia India chapter, but it should be a group of all
> the people who are actually part of the Wikipedia community! It should not
> be a bunch of politicians that want to be face of Wikipedia to the Indian
> media without having made any substantial contributions to Wikipedia.
>
> Would you say that of everyone who has been so kind as to spare
> immense amounts of time and put in much effort to get it to this
> stage?
>
> > Wikimedia India will receive thousands of rupees in donations. We need
> trusted people who are representative of the pan-India Wikipedia community
> to handle it.
>
> Yes. It will. Which is why we need you and everyone else in the
> community to hold the organization accountable.
>
> There have been previous efforts at getting this organization started
> - the need of the hour was getting it up and running. I think it'd be
> great if we could do that.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> ________
> http://social.prathambooks.org/
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:20:02 +0530
> From: Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik....@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Shahid Akhtar <
> mohd.shahid_akh...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Praveen Prakash <me.prav...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > K. Then who is Kiruba Shankar?  What was the election process & criteria?
> >> How many people involved in that? Why all these process were hidden? Why
> >> even Hindi not informed?
> >>
> >
> > This is what I'm wondering about too! I think this process should be more
> > inclusive and transparent!
> >
> > I'm all for a Wikimedia India chapter, but it should be a group of all
> the
> > people who are actually part of the Wikipedia community! It should not be
> a
> > bunch of politicians that want to be face of Wikipedia to the Indian
> media
> > without having made any substantial contributions to Wikipedia.
> >
> > Wikimedia India will receive thousands of rupees in donations. We need
> > trusted people who are representative of the pan-India Wikipedia
> community
> > to handle it.
> >
> > If this is a group of people who are meeting in Bangalore for wining and
> > dining, this should be named "Wikimedia Bangalore" chapter, not
> "Wikipedia
> > INDIA" chapter!
> >
>
> *My Few paisas.*
>
> As to my understanding after reading the MoA, there are no special
> privileges to founding members apart from not requiring to "apply for
> membership".[Authors can clarify if my understanding is not right] I
> suppose
> there would be an election after the formation and only the elected persons
> will have additional privileges than a normal member. So in that sense, who
> starts it really doesn't matter.
>
> I dont know why people are cribbing its secret / closed group when meta was
> up all the while. Did anyone make a point to edit any of the meta pages and
> was it left undiscussed / discarded? No one stopped anyone from doing that.
>
> Trust is not measured in terms of edit count.Showing up on the day and
> commitment in real world is also required and I guess the people who signed
> the MoA did that. I agree with pan-India comment but again elections would
> happen I guess and as i already mentioned "founding members" dont get any
> extra privileges. Probably some clause can be added to include regional /
> linugual EC members.I would add that right away to discussion page.
>
> Sorry i take the wine and dine comment too seriously.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MBL
> is not about wine and dine. Please go through the pages to see what was
> going on the meetings.
>
> --
> Regards
> Srikanth.L
> http://j.mp/SrikanthL
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