My 2 ( or more ) paisa on this !

IMHO, if articles are deleted just because it is a stub in wikipedia , it
would have never grown ! Try to add more meaningful content to those
articles, instead of recommending it to deletion. Improvement of any
article, is everybody's responsibility, not only to the one who had created

Imagine somebody writes a non-existent article "India", a stub one in a
newly created language Wikipedia. Should they delete it ? No ! We are
defeating the very purpose of collaborative online encyclopedia.  Deleting
them will also confirm the long standing criticism of Wikipedia  - Editor
elitism and unwelcoming behaviour to newcomers.   Having said that, I am
completely against any spam content on Wikipedia.  Also no information is
better than wrong data. Creating articles to just inflate the numbers is
gaming the system, but creating article stubs to improve coverage should be
always be welcomed.

Readers are more likely to not return to a language Wikipedia if they find
there is not even basic coverage on wide range of subjects. Trust me!

What I have seen on my experiences on, people are more happy to edit
existing articles than creating new ones. A new editor will expand an
article of his/her interest , if there is already an article. 90% of them
won't bother to create one himself.

Again, I must iterate this , Creating articles to just inflate the numbers
is bad, but creating article stubs to improve coverage should be always be

Ok, no brick-bats for  this, I'm just sharing my personal opinion. :D

Tinu Cherian

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Praveen Prakash <>wrote:

>  Kolhapuri wrote:
> The problem is well known and discussed at Marathi Wikipedia, but we
> at Marathi Wikipedia like to take all contributions that come to us.
> We know that number of articles doesn't mean anything. But  when there
> are only handful of contributors, we don't like to lose any of them by
> stopping them from doing what they like to do. Some users want to add
> new stub articles to make it easy for others to add content, we don't
> think stopping them will do any good. We know that we lack meaningful
> articles with enough information and there are some people who work on
> it. You can only do some much with limited resources.
> By the way Cricket articles ask people to refer 'Sachin Tendulkar'
> article as an example if they want to expand it.
> Regards,
> Pratik
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM, YellowMonkey <> 
> <> wrote:
>  I don't know who to talk to about it specifically, but there is some problem
> with the cricket articles on the Marathi Wikipedia; perhaps it is indicative
> of a wider trend
> Lots of English wikipedia Australian cricketer articles have Marathi
> interwikis more than any other language. But going to all of them, they
> consist of three parts
> *Stub message
> *Empty infobox
> *The same five words as following
> उदाहरणादाखल सचिन तेंडुलकर हा लेख पहा.
> The wikilink goes to Sachin Tendulkar, judging by the photo
> I went to the Marathi article on Len Hutton, and clicked on the cat
> Presumably this is the cat for English cricketers? I randomly clicked on
> about 15 of them and all of them have the same sentence. The same thing
> happens on teh Australian, NZ and South African cats by following the
> interwiki, about 800 articles appear to be completely empty or more useless
> than a substub.
> --------
> Whoever did this, all they are doing is meaninglessly inflating the article
> count with articles that are all but empty except for an irrelevant comment
> about Sachin Tendulkar.
> They may think it makes Marathi Wikipedia look better on the article count
> rankings, but it is only likely to make it look like a farce, especially if
> this is widespread.
> It may trick a few admins in other Wikipedias into being impressed and
> generate some fake prestige, but there is also a chance that anyone who
> might use/contribute might consider the WP to be a joke, or people from
> other projects who bother to take a look will think that the culture of the
> Marathi project is to fraudulently inflate themselves with misleading
> statistics
> I checked another Indic wp with the random function and saw a very
> substantial minority consisting of empty section headers cut and pasted
> around the place, although the depth ranking is very high.
> The depth can be gamed very easily, but it doesn't do anything useful except
> for false bragging and probably harm in the long term
> Can someone who knows Marathi deal with those cricket articles please.
> Thanks
>  Thats true. In Malayalam wikipedia we once faced same problem. But It get
> worse when  nobody except that particular writer is happy. We overcome this
> by putting a tag on such article that denotes "this article is too stub or
> single line" and we keep it for some weeks. If there is no improvements on
> contents, we recommend that article for deletion. So now most of our
> articles are with atleast basic infos.
> I can surely say that some users want to start so many articles, only to
> say that they started it. ;-)
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