Hey, nobody said Malayalam Wikipedia or any other Wikipedia is irrelevant.

Each has a different style of functioning. A metric of high regard on
one Wikipedia may not be applicable on another, at all. A general policy on
one Wikipedia may not be applicable to another. Nevertheless, we need
Wikipedias with more exhaustive coverage ( read as number of articles ) but
*with higher quality* , don't really care how that is accomplished ( read as
bots, translations, higher number of edits) ( my personal opinion).

-Tinu Cherian

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:58 PM, praveenp <me.prav...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote:
> Its not just about stubs.
> We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
> they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be
> uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits.
> According to
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias
> *"Depths above 300 for 
> Wikipedias<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notes>below 100 
> 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant."
> *
> When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.
> The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.
> Ravi
> This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam wikipedia
> has its strength and its weakness.
> Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a
> massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is better
> than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If anyone thinks
> that articel by single edit is better than multi edited article, I must say
> thats not wiki style :( .
> But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, mainly
> students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never discouraged
> anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), because user
> satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that eventually they will
> create a great bot :).  Sometimes running a bot is not very simple. I had a
> spell checker bot and I had to overview all of its edits, because of
> Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or may be because bad logic
> ;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it threw exceptions. So I'll say
> bot edits also are a kind of manual inputs. Now there are many global bots,
> most of them contributing interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs
> occasionally which we usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing
> the owner (Recent eg: See history of 
> വർഗ്ഗം:ഫലകങ്ങൾ<http://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BE&action=history>).
> Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main
> namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it is
> not, whenever a bot identified as doing  unwanted edit it gets blocked.
> There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something on
> wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, he/she
> corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal (കവാടം)
> pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic.
> In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active
> categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), large
> number of templates and many help pages and project pages with good content
> (I'm sure that many of these help pages and project pages are really useful
> to new users to jump start wikipedia) are available. I think we are using
> talk pages aslo very well.
> It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be incremental
> to "depth". So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I
> welcome them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home
> wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :)
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