Thanks for these stats and the descriptions of policy you have all shared. I find them quite interesting.
Cheers, Asaf On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonl...@gmail.com>wrote: > In fact, bot edits in Indian Wikis is also an interesting metric. For > example, see the below table to understand share of the *percentage of bot > edits* across some major Indian wikis. > > - Bengali - 76 > - Bishnupriya Manipuri - 97 > - Gujarati - 37 > - Hindi - 50 > - Kannada - 59 > - Malayalam - 42 > - Marathi - 62 > - Sanskrit - 85 > - Tamil - 51 > - Telugu - 51 > - Urdu - 59 > > I know that for some Indian language wikipedians the only relevant metric > is *number of articles*. But of course, not for the Malayalam wikipedians. > We saw much value in all the metric that is published at > http://stats.wikimedia.org/. I know many others are also finding value to > it, that is why it is published every month. > > Shiju Alex > > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM, BalaSundaraRaman > <sundarbe...@yahoo.com>wrote: > >> Praveen, >> >> You've shown how much insight we can glean by provoking Malayalam Wiki >> friends. ;) >> We all got a great inside view of the different aspects of participation >> in one of the finest Indian wikis. >> >> >> > So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome >> them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home >> > wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :) >> >> I don't think anyone doubted that. >> >> >> - Sundar >> >> "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium >> for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." >> - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture >> >> >> *From:* praveenp <me.prav...@gmail.com> >> >> *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. < >> email@example.com> >> *Sent:* Thu, January 27, 2011 5:58:25 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 >> Lakh/1 million edits milestone >> >> On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote: >> >> Its not just about stubs. >> >> We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles >> they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be >> uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. >> >> According to >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias >> >> *"Depths above 300 for >> Wikipedias<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notes>below 100 >> 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant." >> * >> When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. >> The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. >> >> Ravi >> >> This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam wikipedia >> has its strength and its weakness. >> >> Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a >> massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is better >> than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If anyone thinks >> that articel by single edit is better than multi edited article, I must say >> thats not wiki style :( . >> >> But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, mainly >> students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never discouraged >> anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), because user >> satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that eventually they will >> create a great bot :). Sometimes running a bot is not very simple. I had a >> spell checker bot and I had to overview all of its edits, because of >> Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or may be because bad logic >> ;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it threw exceptions. So I'll say >> bot edits also are a kind of manual inputs. Now there are many global bots, >> most of them contributing interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs >> occasionally which we usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing >> the owner (Recent eg: See history of >> വർഗ്ഗം:ഫലകങ്ങൾ<http://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BE&action=history>). >> >> >> Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main >> namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it is >> not, whenever a bot identified as doing unwanted edit it gets blocked. >> >> There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something on >> wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, he/she >> corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal (കവാടം) >> pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic. >> >> In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active >> categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), large >> number of templates and many help pages and project pages with good content >> (I'm sure that many of these help pages and project pages are really useful >> to new users to jump start wikipedia) are available. I think we are using >> talk pages aslo very well. >> >> It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be incremental >> to "depth". So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I >> welcome them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home >> wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindiafirstname.lastname@example.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindiaemail@example.com > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Asaf Bartov <asaf.bar...@gmail.com>
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