Commons deal these issues in a different way I guess. Let active Commons users comment on this.
Fortunately foreign nationals have permission to capture images. :) See page 13 of the below official document. Especially clause 1.3. :) http://www.indianrailways.gov.in/uploads/directorate/prd/PR/PR-MANUAL.pdf Shiju On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote: > Shiju, > Does that make any of these two of my photographs on the commons illegal? > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BETL-BMIC-Hosur-_Road-Junction.jpg > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Garden-City-Skyway-Bridge-KRPuram.jpg > Also, does the government differentiate between Photography and > Videography? > --Regards, > Srikanth. > > > On 17 June 2011 21:12, Shiju Alex <shijualexonl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A station is public property and hence nobody should be able to stop you >>> from photographing it. >>> >> >> That is our assumption. Just like that we assume that all Indian/State >> Government websites are in public domain since ours is a democractic nation. >> But in reality that is not true. Government is imposing restrictions on >> various things through copyright law. Refer to the earlier >> mails/clarifications sent by Gautham. >> >> See the below site which lists some restrictions regarding photographing >> Indian Railway assets. >> >> http://www.irfca.org/~shankie/irphotography/irphotography.htm >> >> From there: >> >> THE OFFICIAL VERSION: >> >> India, it would appear, suffers from a persecution complex. Several >> places are considered restricted in India. These include bridges, railroad >> yards, railway premises, sheds, workshops, stations and tunnels. These are >> supposed to be of military importance. Officials are very skittish about >> the whole thing, and many of them tend to go overboard in trying to enforce >> these restrictions. Its against the law to take a photograph of a train at >> the station, yet, you can walk a few metres away, just outside the station >> limits, and shoot freely from there. Or from the overbridge just before the >> station. Or from the lineside in open country. Which is why we railfans call >> these 'idiot restrictions'. But thats another story. >> >> Hence officially, if you are planning on doing some really serious and >> extensive railroad photography in India, it is absolutely essential for you >> to apply for and acquire a permit. You will need to write to: >> >> The Joint Director of Public Relations, Railway Board, Rail Bhavan, New >> Delhi-110001, India. >> >> As far as I know, most of the railway related restrictions are imposed by >> Indian railways, not by Central Government. But I couldn't find an official >> document related to this. >> >> Now Railway police/authorities are trying to impose this >> official/unofficial policy/law through various means. >> >> >> Shiju >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >> rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Shiju, what problem can railways have? >>> A station is public property and hence nobody should be able to stop you >>> from photographing it. It isn't covered under the Official Secrets Act, is >>> it? Besides, if there was a problem, then a HUGE bunch of photographs from >>> the Commons shouldn't exist. If it were illegal, how come so many films are >>> shot in stations and trains? >>> If anybody wants, I can get a sample clip of a road, which can be applied >>> to rail as well. >>> --Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> On 17 June 2011 17:48, Pradeep Mohandas <pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> I think since what we want to do is videotape a railway route, the >>>> driver's bogey is more suited to this. I would want to film during day >>>> time only under good visibility conditions, where possible. >>>> >>>> I think we could give the CC-BY-SA license to the Indian Railways. >>>> >>>> I do not think there'll be too many people to worry about unlike >>>> Google Street View. >>>> >>>> Another interesting project could be trying to film rivers from source >>>> to where it meets the sea. >>>> >>>> It'll also be a way to map a few things. >>>> >>>> Great points! Never thought this could be such an interesting >>>> discussion. Flipcams are great too! >>>> >>>> Pradeep >>>> >>>> On 17/06/2011, Vickram Crishna <vvcris...@radiophony.com> wrote: >>>> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < >>>> > pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> hi, >>>> >> >>>> >> I understand. But the question is that of access to the driver/guard >>>> >> bogey. >>>> >> We can either be there or not be there at all. Another issue is that >>>> we >>>> >> can >>>> >> use the video during daytime only. >>>> >> >>>> >> It's an interesting logistical exercise along with having a "free" >>>> video >>>> >> tape of all of that length of railway line. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > Quite apart from the permission of the Railway authorities, please be >>>> aware >>>> > that we, all of us, have a responsibility not to inadvertently record >>>> anyone >>>> > without their express permission. This may not be expressed explicitly >>>> in >>>> > legal terms in India, hence may not cross the line being drawn by the >>>> > Creative Commons partners, but is nevertheless an important >>>> distinction to >>>> > be recognised whilst undertaking anything as incredibly scaled up as >>>> this. >>>> > It could be done, in practical terms, by editing all the footage and >>>> > blurring all faces, mostly automatically. >>>> > >>>> > For those who think perhaps this is a sort of googly, please do some >>>> reading >>>> > on Google Street View, and the judgments of the European Court, aside >>>> from >>>> > individual countries such as UK and Germany, just for perspective. >>>> > >>>> > I am totally in favour of this project being done, by the way. If >>>> enough >>>> > people can be found across the country who have time and access to >>>> Flips, I >>>> > doubt it would be very difficult to carry out, provided the Railways >>>> is >>>> > willing (and it is not illegal) to allow people in the Guard Bogies. I >>>> have >>>> > seen Flip night recordings, by the way, and do not think this is a >>>> major >>>> > impediment either. >>>> > >>>> > With care (for individuals/faces), I think it might even be possible >>>> to do >>>> > on some city suburban rail lines. It may not require any permissions, >>>> if it >>>> > is done from passenger carriages. But doing it from the motorman's >>>> viewpoint >>>> > (definitely needs permission) could create some totally fascinating >>>> footage. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Vickram >>>> > Fool On The Hill <http://communicall.wordpress.com> >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> ME. >>> Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement >>> My infrastructure invasion... plus other images >>> too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > ME. > Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement > My infrastructure invasion... plus other images > too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq > I got a FLIP!!! I got a FLIP!!! I got a FLIP!!! I got a FLIP!!! I got a > FLIP!!! > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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