On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:
> About the Foundation update,
> The number of students involved sounds great and sets up huge expectations 
> about the program. There has been tremendous publicity for the program. Like 
> mentioned on the update, it does require great deal of effort to retain this 
> enthusiasm in the campuses -- however the addition new staff, Shiju and 
> Nikita should boost the efforts. I personally would like to see more people 
> like Srikeit (who's presently helping out with the program) who've 
> contributed immensely on Wikipedia, and have known the community for quite 
> sometime being given opportunities to help steer this program. I met Srikeit 
> during Wikimania and he was mighty excited about his role where he could put 
> to use his long time experience being part of Wikipedia.

Absolutely.  The more Nitika and I look at the program, the more we are 
convinced that full time Fellowships (maybe of a 3 month duration) will be 
required when we move to other cities.  Getting this kind of a program going is 
back breaking stuff and requires enormous co-ordination and follow-up.  
Experienced Wikipedians can make enormous contributions.  
> I would be extremely keen to know more about the conversations happening 
> between the mobile companies and the Foundation. What is the current picture? 
> As more and more people increasingly access information from mobile here, 
> this is going to be an important channel worth exploring rigorously, and with 
> focus on Indian languages. 
I'll be keeping the community posted on this, as always.

> And the independent public trust -- I know that I'll be hitting a sensitive 
> topic by even stirring this, but I can't help but wonder how the dual power 
> house model would work. A common Wikipedian from here would have several 
> unanswered questions, and few very simple and obvious questions like whether 
> two different entities are actually required for the same region, or about 
> whom to approach for help in improving projects in the region or for 
> assistance of any kind. It sort of puts up good deal of confusion for the 
> community. Between just the chapter and the foundation's office (transformed 
> into a legal entity of 'trust'), while there's just too many things to be 
> done in this nascent community, isn't co-ordination going to be unnecessary 
> overhead and something that is eating up into each of your's time? How do you 
> plan to address these? And when the chapter was established, it was decided 
> to go for a 'society' model for obvious reasons, and for of how democratic it 
> would be. 

The potential in India is massive - and so is the effort required to realise 
this opportunity (as you indicated.)   It will require resources and 
capabilities and the Chapter and Foundation will both contribute.  As far as 
who should be reached for assistance of any kind, do reach out to whoever and 
however many you want to reach out to.  (An email to this mailing list for 
example is a great way - or feel free to reach out to the Chapter directly or 
to me directly or both!)  Co-ordination between the Chapter and the Foundation 
is not an overhead; we need to do it and it will be well worth the investment 
of time and effort.
> There are several more questions that would prop in the minds of Wikipedians 
> who've seen times when there was no chapter, no WMF assistance during the 
> earlier years (2002 - ) to the years now of conspicuously towering interest 
> in the region. There were times when we put our own money to organize 
> Wikipedia related activities, not having anyone here to help. So, this change 
> is welcoming, the kind of interest we're seeing now in India is huge for 
> every Wikipedian from this country. However, there is uncertainty about where 
> this is headed. 

Loud +1 to Gautam's point on this.

> Cheers,
> -- 
> Hari Prasad Nadig 

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