On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If it is about data entry, then Braille doesn't really play much of a role
> does it?
> AFAIK, visually challenged people don't 'write' in Braille, just read.
> Correct me if I'm wrong please.
>

+1. Please read the article and view the video, otherwise we might as well
be on two different planets :-)

And please don't just take my word for it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille


> --Regards,
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Vickram Crishna <vvcris...@radiophony.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> The article is very clear: it is touchscreen for data entry, not reading.
>> The device (integrated with TTS) reads out the characters as they are being
>> typed.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gerard, Vickram,
>>> From my experience I know that Braille is a physically read language. It
>>> is read by feeling the raised dots on a surface. Eg: On elevator buttons, a
>>> series of dots on each button.
>>> I fail to understand how a touch screen display can work here.
>>> Regards,
>>> Srikanth
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Vickram Crishna <
>>> vvcris...@radiophony.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
>>>> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>> I do not know exactly how Braille works but if a character in a
>>>>> standard script can be represented by Braille characters in stead,
>>>>> then all it seems to need is a method for us to replace the existing
>>>>> Unicode character with the Braille Unicode character. As we already
>>>>> have WebFonts functionality it seems to me that what is needed is a
>>>>> conversion before the characters are send to the user. When this is
>>>>> done, we can show you the Braille characters on your screen.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What works for persons with visual challenges, who have been trained to
>>>> use Braille typing, is the sequence of simultaneous keypresses that
>>>> translate into language characters (there are Braille variants for
>>>> non-Roman scripts). Since the visually challenged person cannot see the
>>>> screen in any case, the display is not the point. This particular solution
>>>> allows the touchscreen to accept multiple fingertip contact as individual
>>>> characters, and of course, for the screen to switch smoothly between screen
>>>> reading (TTS) and data entry.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When a Braille keyboard is used, what is needed is to convert the
>>>>> Braille sequences to whatever script / language is used before it is
>>>>> actually saved.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am convinced that there are many developers both in India and in the
>>>>> rest of the world who are able to take on this challenge and have a
>>>>> proof of concept in a week.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remember it has to be integrated with the TTS used by the device. There
>>>> are several out there, with different kinds of 'voices', a major one I know
>>>> about being Festival (FOSS), but at the Conference, several persons
>>>> referred to eSpeak. An important related piece of work is to augment the
>>>> existing TTS' with Indian languages, also (for English) with Indian
>>>> accents.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>       GerardM
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 November 2011 22:12, Pradeep Mohandas
>>>>> <pradeep.mohan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We were happy to have people with visual challenges challenging our
>>>>> > interactions with them. I, personally, was challenged at at least
>>>>> two points
>>>>> > in the conference although I thought I had been sensitized for such
>>>>> > interactions.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We do have an online feedback form for the Conference but wonder
>>>>> whether we
>>>>> > can have more ways to reach people with visual challenges and the
>>>>> aged for
>>>>> > feedback on how the Conference treated them and how we can improve
>>>>> our
>>>>> > communication of the Conference (in future) to them.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thank you for bringing up this point, Vickram.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > warm regards,
>>>>> > Pradeep Mohandas
>>>>> >
>>>>> > User:Prad2609
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:45:03 +0530
>>>>> > From: vvcris...@radiophony.com
>>>>> > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>> > Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Several persons attending the recent WikiConfIndia 2011 drew
>>>>> attention to
>>>>> > the need for greater ease of use for persons with visual challenges
>>>>> - Barry
>>>>> > Newstead referred specifically to this need, commenting that in
>>>>> general,
>>>>> > usability improvements for persons with special needs pay off for the
>>>>> > community at large.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This recent development at Stanford
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://www.springwise.com/lifestyle_leisure/braille-writing-software-touchscreen-devices/
>>>>> > describes how visually impaired persons with Braille skills can
>>>>> interact
>>>>> > directly with touchscreen devices. What is very striking about this
>>>>> solution
>>>>> > is that it does not involve tactile feedback, as one might expect.
>>>>> Instead,
>>>>> > once switched to Braille mode, the screen senses multiple finger
>>>>> placement
>>>>> > and translates that into the expected Braille codes (see the video to
>>>>> > understand this, if you are unfamiliar with Braille typing).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To echo Barry's comments made at WCI2011, I think a certain amount
>>>>> of such
>>>>> > out-of-the-box thinking could go a long way to creating an interface
>>>>> that is
>>>>> > intuitively more approachable than the present wiki editor.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Vickram
>>>>> > Fool On The Hill
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