Do note, we had ALL that till two years ago.
Since the offline meetups have begun, a lot of English editors have now
reduced editint to concentrate on outreach activities and all.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Hisham <his...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:
> This is a letter to all Indian editors of the English Wikipedia requesting
> discussion, cooperation and help.
> Recently I was asked to give a three to four minute presentation on the
> state of WikiProject India on English Wikipedia for the session on state of
> Indic Wikipedias at the recently concluded WikiConference in Mumbai. At
> first I thought nothing about the matter, but as I was compiling the
> report, I came across statistics which would horrify any of us.
> To begin with, as of time of writing this post, WikiProject India has a
> total of 90,021 articles. This is a very large number and second only to
> Hindi Wikipedia's 100,588 articles. Since all these English articles cover
> only India or some aspect of its geography, history, culture or its people,
> this set of 90,000+ articles is important to all Indians, representing the
> largest core of knowledge about India on any Wikipedia project.
> But all of this is not high quality stuff. User:Svick on English Wikipedia
> provides a useful service to WikProjects on English Wikipedia. He provides
> a WikiProject-wise listing of articles which have improvement tags such as
> {{unreferenced}}, {{cleanup}}, {{copyedit}} and so on. In his report for
> WikiProject India, at the following url:
> http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListingByCat.php?project=India
> you will find that of the 79435 articles in this project which were
> assessed by Svick, a total of 52077 articles or 65.6 % are marked for
> cleanup, with 86271 issues in total. These are tagged with 82 different
> types of tags, the most populous being :
> * Articles with unsourced statements (6815)
> * Articles lacking reliable references (1989)
> * Articles needing additional references (4840)
> * Articles lacking sources (8970)
> * BLP articles lacking sources (1297)
> * Articles needing cleanup (2751)
> * Articles containing potentially dated statements (9317)
> * All articles needing coordinates (14571)
> * Articles to be expanded (1020)
> Besides this, there are 40,338 articles unassessed for importance and
> 20,527 for quality, making a backlog of 60,865 assessments.
> In addition, of the 90,000+ articles, there are 43,843 stubs and 10,986
> start class articles. All these need to be developed in time also.
> Besides these are a very large number of cryptic articles, articles
> pertaining to India but not tagged on the talk page with the WikiProject
> banner. The articles themselves sometimes need more cleanup tags than are
> marked at present.
> You may have read Sven Manguard's special opinion editorial in the
> Signpost some time ago
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-10-31/Opinion_essay
> wherein he has drawn attention to the hundreds of thousands of articles
> needing cleanup and improvement on Wikipedia as a whole.  That is exactly
> the issue with WikiProject India, as of now.
> To me it appears that - Something needs to be done URGENTLY.
> My own suggestion is that this can easily be tackled if all of us do a
> little bit every day. Many hands make light work. There are about 450
> active editors listed on the WikiProject members page. If each of us
> decided to do just one cleanup task each day, then we can do away with
> 1,64,500 odd problems in a year. Over time, these issues will fall to
> negligible levels.
> Please reply to this thread with your views. Firstly, do you agree with
> me. Is there a problem or am I sensationalising the case? What exactly are
> the issues and how do we resolve them. Can we as Indians rise to the
> challenge and bring down these backlogs to manageable levels. Please  give
> us any ideas, inputs, insights or critiques that may occur to you.
> Many thanks for your note, Ashwin.  I think this is a really important
> discussion and I agree wholeheartedly with you about the need to do
> something, and the need to do it urgently!
> I notice your initiative to Collaboration of the Month on a select set of
> nominated articles - and that's fantastic.  That's exactly the kind of
> stuff that needs to be done.
> Here are few thoughts that I had
>    - We need to create a sense of community and collaboration.  It would
>    really be nice if as many interested editors as possible sing up.  One
>    comment I've heard from some wikimedians is that there isn't enough
>    collaborative editing.  Can we create some vehicle for this?  For instance,
>    can we take some time out in community meetups and do a little bit for one
>    or more of these articles?  Can we create some kind of mini-events
>    equivalent to hackathons?  For instance, can we create an Edit Utsav every
>    (just throwing this out as an example) on Sunday afternoons every week?
>    - We need to make a start - no matter how small  Even if you choose to
>    do 2 articles per month for Collaboration of the Month, that's great and we
>    should take it from there and slowly build up.
>    - We need to create excitement and momentum.  For this to happen, we
>    need to be generous in our celebration.  I think every article that
>    interested editors work on as part of your Collaboration of the Month
>    should be celebrated - on this mailing list, on the WP:INDIA talk page, on
>    various social handles (let's shamelessly exploit Tinu's vast fan following
>    here) and maybe even in the press.
>    - We need to have something to work towards (in your parlance, a
>    beachhead...  :-)).  I have an idea.  There are a bunch of discussions
>    happening on various offline initiatives.  One challenge that these will
>    face will be to select a reasonable set of acceptable quality articles on
>    India.  I don't know what that number should be or how long it should take
>    - but whatever the determinations are on both of these, what if you have
>    these work with the offline initiative (which I also know is also very dear
>    to your heart.)
>    - We need to magnify an already big message.  One common refrain I've
>    heard from many who are interested in editing Wikipedia is  the equivalent
>    of "everything is covered; I don't know what to edit".  Asking folks in
>    India to edit about India is a powerfully relevant message - and one that
>    they are likely to intuitively connect with.  ..and as you've outlined,
>    there is no shortage of articles - many of great importance / relevance.
>     Maybe this could be a message covered in every outreach sessions that
>    community folks undertake?  [Edit] India!
> In all of this, do let me know if there is anything we can do to help and
> we'll do our best.
> Best
> hisham
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