If English Wikipedia is re-energising, thanks to WikiConference &
interested editors coming together, it is only natural that a host of email
threads will follow. Some people prefer that the wikimedia-I list not be
crowded, be generic and kept noise-free. Hisham has explained some of the
thinking. I think that this is enough justification for the new list to
come into existence.

Indian community growth is going to see at least one mailing list, one
Wikipedia, one Wiktionary, one Wikisource and at least one other Wikimedia
per indic language. In addition we shall be having at least one city
specific mailing list per city. Like it or not there is gonna be a BABEL of
lists whether any one likes it or not. If people need to communicate, there
is going to be growth of lists. If we dont give them mail-man list, there
is nothing to prevent them to go to proprietary free groups such as Google,
Yahoo etc.

So, the writing is on the wall to come, there is lots of growth to come.
Expect, no, even better, anticipate change.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:34 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
<tinucher...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks all for the sharing your thoughts on this. While we have a kind of
> consensus to move ahead with the creation, I wish to understand the
> concerns of those who think it may not be needed.  I agree we will have a
> problem with "too many lists " always.. Once each Indian language community
> gets more active and mature, we will need separate mailing lists for the
> better co-ordination and micro collaboration.
>
> I would like to clarify.
> 1) wikimediaindia-l remains the the most important mailing list and
> primary platform for the Wikimedia India community to interact each other.
> 2) This new mailing list is not for replacing on-wiki discussions.
>
> -Tinu Cherian
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Swaroop Rao <raul.swar...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Agree with Tinu; What's in a name? ...as long as the list has some proper
>> name, its ok. Also, traffic in the new list might pick up once it is
>> actually started.
>>
>> However, I don't think that this should be used as a substitute for
>> onwiki discussions.
>>
>> Swaroop Rao
>> (MikeLynch <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch>)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 15:08, Naveen Francis <navee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for new mailing list for Wikimedia projects in English from India.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Bala Jeyaraman 
>>> <sodabot...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to Tinu,
>>>>
>>>> If more traffic starts hitting the list regarding en wiki articles
>>>> (like yesterday), a separate list is an absolute must.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Srikeit <srik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 to what Tinu said.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Anirudh Bhati 
>>>>> <anirudh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:31 PM, <wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I agree with Pradeep - there are already too many lists, the last
>>>>>>> thing we need is to follow another for WP:India. Why cant we just 
>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>> on wikimediaindia-I?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should wait for significantly more traffic on discussions around
>>>>>> India-related articles on the English Wikipedia before considering the
>>>>>> creation of a new mailing list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> anirudh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: tinucher...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:18:30 +0530
>>>>>>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of mailing list for
>>>>>>> co-ordination of Indian Wikipedians on English Wikipedia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My first preference goes for something on the lines of  
>>>>>>> "wikimedia-in-eng" ,
>>>>>>> basically a list for the Indian Wikipedian community contributing to
>>>>>>> en.wiki and other English Wikimedia projects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "wikiproject-india-en"  was in case there is much "opposition" to
>>>>>>> "oh , we  already have a English Wikipedia list  " :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Either of the name, I am personally ok, the purpose remains the same
>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Tinu Cherian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>>>>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm, my stand has been that the union set of english Wikipedians in
>>>>>>> India with WikiProject India article space also forms another genuine 
>>>>>>> indic
>>>>>>> language community - especially since English is the secondary official
>>>>>>> language of our nation. In that case. the community must have a list of 
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
>>>>>>> psubhash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMO  "wikiproject-india-en" speaks for itself and would be good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>> Subha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30 November 2011 05:50, CherianTinu Abraham <
>>>>>>> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While wikimediaindia-l is the main mailing list of Wikimedia
>>>>>>> Community in India, a larger discussion of English Wikipedia/ns in 
>>>>>>> India or
>>>>>>> WikiProject India on en.wiki is out of scope on wikimediaindia-l and its
>>>>>>> subscribers. While most of the Indian language Wikipedia have
>>>>>>> their separate mailing lists, co-ordination & collaboration among the
>>>>>>> Indian Wikimedians contributing to English Wikipedia has become the most
>>>>>>> difficult. English Wikipedia mailing list "wikien-l" is too boarder 
>>>>>>> scope
>>>>>>> of discussing them.
>>>>>>>    I am aware that we have "too many lists", but it is expected as
>>>>>>> the community grows in size and creation of separate lists is justified 
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> long as we have enough activity on/around it. I am of the opinion that
>>>>>>> India-related content and community of Indian Wikipedians on English
>>>>>>> Wikipedia is as equally important to grow as Indic language Wikipedias.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this context, I would propose the creation of a
>>>>>>> "wikimedia-in-eng" or "wikiproject-india-en" mailing list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Tinu Cherian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>>>>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agreed in principle with Pradeep, but let some talk of content take
>>>>>>> place here. I'm sure the majority of wikimedia-l readers do not have 
>>>>>>> WT:IN
>>>>>>> on their watchlist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>>>>>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Pradeep Mohandas <
>>>>>>> pradeep.mohan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I think the list should be used more as a helpful pointer and as
>>>>>>> much discussion as possible should be done on Wikipedia itself. I think
>>>>>>> there are more lists than Wikipedians can handle and more time is spent 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the lists than on editing Wikipedia, which is what we're primarily here 
>>>>>>> for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> warm regards,
>>>>>>> Pradeep
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> User:Prad2609
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:14:00 +0530
>>>>>>> From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [[Brian Horrocks]] not an Indian FA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree more with Swaroop, but since the English wikipedia is
>>>>>>> picking itself up and dusting itself again, we may want one.
>>>>>>> --Re,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Swaroop Rao <raul.swar...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good idea, but then, shouldn't we be using 
>>>>>>> WT:IN<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk%3aIN>for these? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Swaroop Rao
>>>>>>> (MikeLynch <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%3aMikeLynch>)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 21:47, Shiju Alex <shijualexonl...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think what Srikanth meant is, creating a separate mailing list for
>>>>>>> English wikipedians from India to discuss their topics of interest. I 
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> think that is a good idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shiju
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>>>>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that what you mean, Srikanth?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Recognized_content
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was also not aware till Pranav dhowed me the link today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>>>>>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ashwin,
>>>>>>> I think the Indian English community needs a list of it's own.
>>>>>>> Re,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>>>>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found TinuCherianBot had mistakenly made Brian Horrocks, a British
>>>>>>> Army general unconnected with India except for his birth, as part of
>>>>>>> WikiProject India, a false positive. Sorry guys, he has nothing to do 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> us. We are now down another FA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
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