Tinu, I understand that we need more members to take the movement forward, but we need to ensure that only genuinely interested people become a part of the chapter. Imagine this: Some comapny is unable to promote their product on Wikipedia. Keeps getting deleted. [Read the mail I sent about Marketing, last week]. One of them joins the chapter, becomes part of the EC after the AGM. What if he/she now uses that position to promote their comapny?
Think about it. --~~~~ On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucher...@gmail.com>wrote: > Thanks Srikanths for initiating this useful discussion. > Yes, we are all aware of the problem. But then again there are no straight > forward answers & solutions too. > > Ironically it is a similar to the "chicken & egg problem". The chapter > needs the community to grow strong... The community will join the chapter > only if it is strong". > > One of things, we are trying is to expand the chapter leadership & larger > community participation is by forming special interest groups for languages > & cities. The SIG chair will form the SIG teams that will help & steer, > catalyst the development of the particular communities > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/City_and_Language_SIG_subcommittee_chair Many > other teams like Finance, Fundraising , Web, PR/Media Relations, Outreach > are in making and will be rolled out soon. > > Bala, Welcome to the chapter ! :) Only if enthusiastic community members > like you come forward , we can make the chapter a better place. > > I also want to use this opportunity to open up discussion ( to all) on > what should the chapter do. > 1) in terms of getting more & more community members > 2) having a better relation & participation with the community at large. > 3) and what the community expects the chapter to do. > > I would request to keep this discussion healthy and constructive. ( and > obviously no personal attacks ) > > Over to you, dear community... > > -TC > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Bala Jeyaraman <sodabot...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> +1 for recruiting more Wikipedian members. >> >> I am one of those Wikipedians who hasn't become a member of the chapter >> because i am hesitant to get involved in chapter politics and fear of being >> forced to follow the agenda set by people who know nothing about Wikipedia >> (except perhaps talking about it). I am sure there are more wikipedians >> like me who are just observing what goes on from the sidelines. It is >> people like us who need to be prodded and dragged to become chapter >> members.(I will send in my membership application soon). >> >> Getting non-wikipedians to sign up and increasing the numbers will >> eventually lead to an organisation completely out of tune with the >> Wikimedia movement. Numbers for numbers sake is not the road we should >> take. As Srikanth R pointed out, there are a lot of people who would love >> to take control. I believe such a thing did happen once before and the >> chapter was forced to send legal notices to dissuade it. Recruiting >> numbers for numbers sake might well lead to such a situation again. And >> when that happens chapter will become yet another talk only organisation >> completely irrelevant to what Wikipedia actually is. >> >> So lets not put up any barriers for membership but at the same time, lets >> not advertise chapter membership to completely new people by going on >> membership drives in outreach events. >> >> - >> Bala >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan >> <srik....@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 19:01, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucher...@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> I am very much in favour of ( sincerely wishes so) the active >>>> community members being part of the chapter and its leadership and taking >>>> the chapter is next level. The chapter will have lose its relevance >>>> unless the community takes control of it and shape its future. >>> >>> Word. >>> >>> I keep iterating this often, May I ask to kindly remove the notion that >>>> Chapter = EC. Each one of us has an equal responsibility ( and opportunity) >>>> to take it forward and drive the chapter. >>> >>> >>> With the very same intent, I opened up the thread, which EC has not >>> opened / made much progress, so that we can do something to have more >>> members who are informed and involved. I would like to point reply of R >>> Srikanth. There are many such folks on the list, beyond it on various wikis >>> in the "silent contributors" category who do not like to be a chapter >>> member and this could be one of the reason. Instead of reaching to events >>> and getting membership and at some stage tell the world chapter is X >>> members strong, Chapter must put in more efforts in getting more members of >>> community as its members and this thread can very well be a start. >>> >>> Having said that, when our founding members drafted the MoA, the chapter >>>> membership was made open to any Indian who is above the 18 years of age. We >>>> didn't want to say No to anyone who is coming forward to join the chapter. >>>> We wanted it to be open and inclusive, we wanted to set no barriers for >>>> anyone to join, anyone who is genuinely interested and enthusiastic , just >>>> like in Wikipedia >>> >>> >>> It is one thing to say "No to anyone who is interested" / but barriers >>> to join, another thing to give out forms, ask them to fill up and canvass >>> its just 100 Rs saying you can be chapter member without letting them know >>> what it is. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> Srikanth.L >>> >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindiafirstname.lastname@example.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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