+1 Ashwin.

As far as I know none of the Wiki communities of India (either language or
city) are in a stage to host an international conference. For time being
let us concentrate on building communities and let us gain confidence by
doing some good regional and language specific conferences.

Shiju


On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com>wrote:

> As one intimately involved in the planning and execution of the last
> WikiConference India, we need to have a cold rational thought on this
> process for bidding for Wikimania, not hubris.
>
> Without prejudice to User:Vibhijain, a bid from Delhi cannot be made
> unilaterally by an under-age editor  who is not in a position to
> execute any of the responsible roles. There should be a requirement
> for each bidding city community to show support and backing. Otherwise
> the bid should be thrown out.
>
> That Delhi has editors is without question, the real question is does
> Delhi have a strong and united wikicommunity which will be able to
> take on this kind of huge commitment? There are few signs of such an
> established community, not withstanding lot of relatively new editors
> such as Noopur taking up new activities to do which hopefully will
> lead to a strong and vibrant community in the future.
>
> For the reasons mentioned above, the Delhi bid should be re-examined
> in all seriousness.
>
> I'm not siding with Mumbai either. In my opinion, we should have a few
> more WikiConferences India before we ask for Wikimania. India needs
> WikiConference Indias, not to host the international community. It is
> akin to the person who has not yet furnished his house or setup his
> residence in a city falling over himself to invite others from
> outside.
>
> WikiConference India 2011 stretched the volunteer community of the
> nation's Wikipedians and was possible due to the unflinching support
> of so many others not from the city. Which is as it should be. So can
> the country deal with both a WikiConference and Wikimania in the same
> year? I think not. Suppose another city, say Kolkata hosted
> WikiConference India, where would the funds, volunteers attention go?
> I think it is a raw deal for the city hosting the WikiConference. The
> amount of volunteer effort which goes into these is not funny. I think
> around 5000 edits worth of effort of mine went into the Conference.
>
> WikiConference India 2011 proved to be beyond the resources of Mumbai
> wikipedians alone. If they have bid for Wikimania 2013, can they
> assure the Indian wikipedian community that they can tackle this even
> larger event without extensive external help when they could not
> tackle the smaller?
>
> If Indian editors are supposed to all join in loyally to support
> Mumbai should it  win the bid, isn't it right that Mumbai ask the
> community's opinion at large first before bidding instead of taking it
> for granted that Indian volunteers will pitch in when needed?
>
> I do not grudge supporting Mumbai, I identify strongly with it and
> will do whatever I can do to help those wonderful guys, but I strongly
> feel that this light hearted attitude to such serious subjects in fact
> takes the rest of the Indian community for granted.
>
> My own personal take is let this opportunity go. Let us have
> WikiConferences 2012 and 2013 and bid instead for Wikimania 2014 and
> that year we should not have a WikiConference. 2013 is too early. The
> need of the hour is building strong Indian wikipedias and communities
> not hosting foreigners.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Béria Lima <berial...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Since we have not one, but two bids from India,  I think that is
> important
> > to be announced here (I would rather prefer if all of you could work
> > together in a single bid, but if is not possible, at least list both
> under
> > the right section in the page)
> > _____
> > Béria Lima
> > (351) 925 171 484
> >
> > Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre
> > acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir
> > esse sonho.
> >
> >
> > On 23 January 2012 23:15, Thomas Goldammer <tho...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I want to remind everyone to officially start a bid for the locale of
> >> Wikimania 2013. All bids made so far are *unofficial* and cannot be
> >> considered, as long as they are not in the list of official bids on
> >> this page:
> >>
> >>   http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_bids
> >>
> >> The possibility to make an official bid closes at ***January 28, 23:59
> >> UTC***, this is in less than five days! So hurry up if you want
> >> Wikimania to happen at your place. :)
> >>
> >> Note that you then have two more months to make your actual bid (and
> >> one more month to refine it). You don't need to have everything
> >> completely ready by now, so don't worry. :) For now, just create the
> >> bid page and list it under "Official bids". Please don't forget to
> >> list your organizing team members on the bid page. (All of them should
> >> enable their email function on the Meta wiki, so that we can reach all
> >> of you easily.)
> >>
> >> On behalf of the jury
> >> Thomas.
> >> (User:Thogo)
> >>
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