On the subject of neutrality. What if the Washinton Post, or New York Times carried out an article showing IIPM/AC in negative light? Will they also be categorised as opinionated? I believe the matter is a semi-domesticated issue. Only Indian companies are getting sued.
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:23 AM, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucher...@gmail.com>wrote: > I think, some are getting it all wrong. It is not about sympathies to > Nichalp or who so ever. > > The problem is not conflict of interest editing... It is not even a > philosophical debate of Paid editing Vs Volunteer editing... The problem is > getting paid to white wash "negative materials" in favor of the clients, > which eventually render Wikipedia articles biased and information > suppressed... And if those people can get favors from the level of Admins, > it is definitely wrong. What is more shocking is that if that if an account > created possibly with a single purpose ( of protecting the interests of a > business group) can manage to climb up the ladder of admin-ship of a > "stronger" Wikipedia like en.wiki , it is definitely alarming ! > > At this point of time, I am giving the benefit of doubt of whether Wifione > is actually Nichalp or not. But definitely an account like Wifione aka > "Wireless Fidelity Class One" must be investigated. > > It is not the first time, IIPM related folks tried to infiltrate Wikipedia > to get the articles in their favour. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Mrinal_Pandey > > I am sure that scores of such sock puppet users are still having a free > run with related articles. > Previous sockpuppet investigations against Wifione in 2009 returned a > "possible" result. > > Imagine having an admin also with ACC ( Account Creation) toolserver > authorization in the favour. > > What is more shocking is that one user who slapped the notice on Wifione > got this message on his talk page > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Makrandjoshi&oldid=104617335 > (which closely translates to DONT YOU GET SCARED? THESE IIPM GUYS WILL > KILL YOU) > > Now tell me, can volunteers like you and me fearlessly edit articles > related to IIPM to remove its bias, in such situations of death threats? > Least I want to go to Silichar after being sued. > > -TC > > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < > pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> hi, >> >> I think we mean this criticism only in the Wikipedia reference. It's >> not as if we're going to catch and hand over this guy to the Police. >> >> Such paid editing lowers the morale of other editors. Efforts must be >> made to stop such work that is detrimental to other Wikipedia >> volunteers. >> >> Then again, we're putting the cart in front of the horse. It's not >> been proved Nichalp and wifione are one and the same. It is hence best >> to discuss only about paid editing and how this practise can be >> identified and stopped. >> >> Pradeep >> Handheld >> >> On 09/02/2012, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I would only like to remind people that showing some sympathy is not a >> > bad thing . >> > >> > Coming from armed forces where there are no second places - to me the >> > greatest sin is lack of competence, whether in language, wiki-writing, >> > techniques or otherwise. I was told by someone that Wikipeding was a >> > voluntary activity so high standards should not be expected in >> > competence. If that is true, then we should not suddenly start >> > witch-hunting on the basis of principle when we are ourselves so >> > casual about other qualities in other ways! >> > >> > Without mentioning specific incidents, I have come across this >> > tendency to crucify others in India community - which is deplorable. >> > >> > Before any one becomes high & mighty on morals here, one should look >> > closely at what are harmful crimes against humanity (murder, rape etc) >> > and what are social misdemeanours (wiki-crimes). So many of us condone >> > other faults all the time in Indian society; it is hypocrisy to be >> > principled in issues concerning others, when we ourselves don't apply >> > the highest standards to ourselves. >> > >> > In my opinion. it is NOT the business of this community to go >> > searching for culprits unless the culprit has affected us in some >> > manner, which does not appear to be the case. >> > >> > As Jesus Christ said, let he who is without blame cast the first stone. >> > >> > There are far better and much more important things to do here. >> > >> > Warm regards, >> > >> > Ashwin Baindur >> > ------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:23 PM, praveenp <me.prav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I feel no sympathy for Nichalp or any such users.... >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> > Wikimediaindiaemail@example.com >> > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > >> >> >> -- >> Pradeep Mohandas >> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindiafirstname.lastname@example.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindiaemail@example.com > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. 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