Hey Lodewijk, I think that's where our private conversation stopped too. We are not sure if there is a wider definition of monuments that can provide us more than 3000. Though we are trying to get one. I am copying this conversation to India community also since many may not have joined this list. Regards Noopur
PS. Those interested in Wiki loves monuments, please do join this list so we can avoid cross posting. 2012/3/5 Lodewijk Gelauff <lodew...@wmnederland.nl> > Hi Pradeep, > > thanks for bringing this on here! Just my two cents and I'll be quiet > again: I think that a list of 3000 is very small for a country the size of > India. For comparison: in the Netherlands we use lists the size of 60.000. > We have a population of 17 million. Now you don't need to go thát big, but > you need a certain size to make things work otherwise the monuments are > just too big and too far away for people to photograph. > > It would perhaps be good to mention that you shouldn't expect to get a > photo of every monument. We covered roughly 10-15% of the monuments only in > one contest. There is no shame at all for not being complete at the end, it > is just a work in progress. More opportunities just makes it easier for > people to participate - and that is the main goal, to get people > participate in an easy and constructive way. Creating the lists is more > work of course with more monuments, but if you can get a database from the > relevant (state?) governments, that would be possible to automate. > > Best, > > Lodewijk > > No dia 5 de Março de 2012 17:41, Pradeep Mohandas < > pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > hi, >> >> A recent conversation we had on getting a list of monuments from >> India. We'd love to get help on this from others on the list. >> >> Pradeep >> P.S. Is everyone listed here - >> >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_India#Volunteers_to_help_organize >> - on this list? >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Pradeep Mohandas <pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> >> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 17:26:07 +0530 >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-asia-chapters] Wiki Loves Monuments (again) >> To: Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> >> Cc: pra...@wikimedia.in, Naveen Francis <navee...@wikimedia.in>, Arun >> Ramarathnam <arun...@wikimedia.in>, Noopur Raval >> <noo...@wikimedia.in>, Tinu Cherian <tinucher...@wikimedia.in> >> >> hi, >> >> I think that if we can't come up with a list, we should simply ask for >> help on the India list. >> >> Pradeep >> Handheld >> >> On 03/03/2012, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > The UNESCO list is just about world heritage and that is covered in ASI. >> > Very interesting, the INTACH bit. Here's what I found: >> > http://www.intach.org/divi-dc-resources.asp?links=ddc2 >> > They list a heritage listing project and echo our concerns about not >> > listing monuments but I can't find a list as yet. >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < >> pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com >> >> wrote: >> > >> >> hi, >> >> >> >> Is there any list provided by INTACH/UNESCO etc? >> >> >> >> Pradeep >> >> Handheld >> >> >> >> On 03/03/2012, Pranav Curumsey <pra...@wikimedia.in> wrote: >> >> > Only ASI maintained monuments seem to be on that list. This Wiki >> >> > Category< >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Monuments_and_memorials_in_India >> >> >will >> >> > help. >> >> > >> >> > We need to provide a list, let people chose what they want to cover. >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> In my humble opinion, also as Pranav suggested, we don't have the >> >> >> resources to pull off a big one so 3000 is a good number. But, the >> >> >> competition will span across a whole year throughout India. Do you >> >> >> think >> >> >> 3000 will last? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < >> >> >> pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> hi, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Do we really need more? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Pradeep >> >> >>> Handheld >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On 03/03/2012, Noopur <noopur.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> > Thanks for linking us in Naveen! >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Pranav, you remember you guys generated the list of requested >> >> >>> > photos >> >> >>> for >> >> >>> > Wiki takes Mumbai and we did similar for Ahmedabad. I've been >> >> debating >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> > idea of 'monuments' in India. I've only been able to locate ASI >> >> listed >> >> >>> > monuments of different divisions and that number is not big. It >> is >> >> >>> around >> >> >>> > 3000: http://asi.nic.in/asi_monu_alphalist.asp >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Do we have tiers of monuments or ways we can approach >> municipalities >> >> >>> > for >> >> >>> > city wise lists? I've been scouting for sometime but could not >> find >> >> any >> >> >>> > digitally available lists. Any help on this is welcome. >> >> >>> > Thanks >> >> >>> > Warm Regards >> >> >>> > Noopur >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Pranav Curumsey < >> >> pra...@wikimedia.in >> >> >>> >wrote: >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >> Hi, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> I just landed up for the call - I think Arun was coordinating >> it. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Naveen Francis >> >> >>> >> <navee...@wikimedia.in>wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> Hi Pranav. >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Next time try to include all the volunteers interested in WLM >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_India#Volunteers_to_help_organize >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Thanks, >> >> >>> >>> naveenpf >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Pranav Curumsey >> >> >>> >>> <pra...@wikimedia.in>wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> We are yet to do anything formal as far as I know. The last >> time >> >> we >> >> >>> had >> >> >>> >>>> a call just 3 of us turned up, and nothing was decided. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> Frankly, we need to decide what level we aim to pull this off >> at >> >> >>> >>>> - >> >> >>> >>>> Im >> >> >>> >>>> not too sure we can pull off anything extravagant given our >> >> >>> resources. >> >> >>> >>>> Also, like I suggested during the call, I feel that WLM >> should be >> >> >>> made >> >> >>> >>>> the >> >> >>> >>>> outreach arm of WCI 2012 (if there is a 2012 conference). This >> >> will >> >> >>> take >> >> >>> >>>> the burden off the chapter - all of us can always support it. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Noopur < >> noopur.ra...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> Dear Naveen and all, >> >> >>> >>>>> Forgive me if I have missed an update but I read somewhere >> that >> >> >>> >>>>> chapters have to officially state somewhere if they are >> >> >>> participating >> >> >>> >>>>> in >> >> >>> >>>>> WLM 2012. Has our chapter done it already? If so, it would >> also >> >> be >> >> >>> >>>>> great to >> >> >>> >>>>> send out a mail regarding that with the name of a point of >> >> contact >> >> >>> >>>>> (Arun >> >> >>> >>>>> would be that person, if I am right). >> >> >>> >>>>> As for the brainstorming, scheduling etc we should start >> working >> >> on >> >> >>> a >> >> >>> >>>>> plan and logistical details too, right? Let me know how I can >> >> help! >> >> >>> >>>>> Cheers >> >> >>> >>>>> Noopur >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Naveen Francis >> >> >>> >>>>> <navee...@wikimedia.in>wrote: >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> In the Asia chapter list. >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> We need to make sure that website is up by March 31 >> >> >>> >>>>>> Mailing list :- >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> >> >>> >>>>>> Timeline:- >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> >>> >>>>>> From: Josh Lim <jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com> >> >> >>> >>>>>> Date: Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:53 PM >> >> >>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-asia-chapters] Wiki Loves Monuments >> >> >>> >>>>>> (again) >> >> >>> >>>>>> To: Asian Wikimedia Chapters coordination < >> >> >>> >>>>>> wikimedia-asia-chapt...@lists.wikimedia.org> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> *Correction: India and Israel are hosting national >> competitions >> >> >>> too. >> >> >>> >>>>>> :)* >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> Josh >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Josh Lim wrote: >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> Hi guys, >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> So far, the Philippines will be organizing a national Wiki >> >> >>> >>>>>> Loves >> >> >>> >>>>>> Monuments competition, and according to Commons, South Korea >> >> >>> >>>>>> may >> >> >>> >>>>>> be >> >> >>> >>>>>> organizing as well. Are there other Asian countries >> >> participating >> >> >>> >>>>>> this >> >> >>> >>>>>> year? >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> Also, for groups who are represented on the list but have >> not >> >> >>> listed >> >> >>> >>>>>> themselves on the table on Meta, please list yourselves at >> >> >>> >>>>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_Project. :) >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> Regards, >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> Josh >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> *JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM* >> >> >>> >>>>>> Block I1, AB Political Science >> >> >>> >>>>>> Major in Global Politics, Minor in Chinese Studies >> >> >>> >>>>>> Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University >> >> >>> >>>>>> Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> *Vice-President** *(2011-2012), Wikimedia Philippines >> >> >>> >>>>>> *Member*, Ateneo Debate Society >> >> >>> >>>>>> *Member*, The Assembly >> >> >>> >>>>>> *Member*, Ateneo Lingua Ars Cultura >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com | +63 (927) 531-8301 >> >> >>> >>>>>> Friendster/Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky >> Harbor >> >> >>> >>>>>> http://akira123323.livejournal.com >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> >>>>>> Wikimedia-asia-chapters mailing list >> >> >>> >>>>>> wikimedia-asia-chapt...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> *JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM* >> >> >>> >>>>>> Block I1, AB Political Science >> >> >>> >>>>>> Major in Global Politics, Minor in Chinese Studies >> >> >>> >>>>>> Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University >> >> >>> >>>>>> Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> *Vice-President** *(2011-2012), Wikimedia Philippines >> >> >>> >>>>>> *Member*, Ateneo Debate Society >> >> >>> >>>>>> *Member*, The Assembly >> >> >>> >>>>>> *Member*, Ateneo Lingua Ars Cultura >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> jamesjoshua...@yahoo.com | +63 (927) 531-8301 >> >> >>> >>>>>> Friendster/Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky >> Harbor >> >> >>> >>>>>> http://akira123323.livejournal.com >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> >>>>>> Wikimedia-asia-chapters mailing list >> >> >>> >>>>>> wikimedia-asia-chapt...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> -- >> >> >>> >>>>> Noopur Raval >> >> >>> >>>>> Student >> >> >>> >>>>> Arts and Aesthetics >> >> >>> >>>>> Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi >> >> >>> >>>>> Ph: 9650567690 >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > -- >> >> >>> > Noopur Raval >> >> >>> > Student >> >> >>> > Arts and Aesthetics >> >> >>> > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi >> >> >>> > Ph: 9650567690 >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> Pradeep Mohandas >> >> >>> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Noopur Raval >> >> >> Student >> >> >> Arts and Aesthetics >> >> >> Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi >> >> >> Ph: 9650567690 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Pradeep Mohandas >> >> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Noopur Raval >> > Student >> > Arts and Aesthetics >> > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi >> > Ph: 9650567690 >> > >> >> >> -- >> Pradeep Mohandas >> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 >> >> >> >> -- >> Pradeep Mohandas >> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 >> _______________________________________________ >> wlm-in mailing list >> wlm...@lists.wmnederland.nl >> http://lists.wmnederland.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wlm-in >> > > > _______________________________________________ > wlm-in mailing list > wlm...@lists.wmnederland.nl > http://lists.wmnederland.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/wlm-in > -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
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