Calmer, now! :) On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Béria Lima <berial...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Calm Ashwin. > > Everyone has the right to say what they think about something (after all > we "still" live in a democracy). I do understand that he was rude and that > there is more than one way to express frustration and he didn't choose a > good one, but we shouldn't do the same to him or anyone. And more > important, we shouldn't be "inviting people to leave" the list or > community. > > I'm not saying you wrong (and I do agree with the most of what you said) > but let's not push people away. > _____ > *Béria Lima* > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a > construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > > On 31 July 2012 09:53, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Abdul, >> >> You have not given of your time to Wikipedia and you have no moral right >> to criticise Hisham for anything he has done. I wonder why you are >> subscribed to this list at all. You are welcome to be a Wikipedian and if >> not, be an constructive member of the community even if you dont edit. We >> have such people. But your diatribe about someone you have not met and know >> nothing about first-hand is not at all appreciated and not the way to go. >> >> Ashwin Baindur >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Ram Shankar Yadav < >> ramshankarya...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Gautam +1 >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Gautam John <gau...@prathambooks.org>wrote: >>> >>>> Abdul, honesty is a rare character and it's good to strike a >>>> dissenting note. However, all said and done, a dissenting note based >>>> in fiction is a wasted thing because it lacks a factual basis in which >>>> to assess it. >>>> >>>> > Before i start, I am not a Wikipedia editor. Just someone who knows >>>> several >>>> > of them. >>>> >>>> Ah. The wonders of second hand information. Always notable. >>>> >>>> > None of you seem to be thinking, or else no thinker is replying. >>>> >>>> Perhaps. But your email doesn't seem to indicate that you were either. >>>> >>>> > Hisham is not some war hero that you have to praise him like this. >>>> > If there is anything he has done, it is not praiseworthy. >>>> >>>> Clearly the members who have replied on this list think otherwise. >>>> Myself included. >>>> >>>> > yes, we weill miss him. a lot. who else do we blame for failurs and >>>> all the >>>> > nonsense in the community? >>>> >>>> So you'll miss him because you have someone to blame? If that's the >>>> prism through which you view activity, then you biases are clear. For >>>> we all have clean hands and can cast the first stone. >>>> >>>> > Hisham has done nothing for the community that stands out. all that >>>> he has >>>> > done is what volunters do. >>>> >>>> Sure. Which is why volunteers have thanked him. >>>> >>>> > he runined th english wikipedia with his IEP crap. >>>> > the community is still trying to recover. >>>> >>>> But had the grace and courage to own up to his failures. We could all >>>> learn something from that. >>>> >>>> > Wer'e not happy that you are leaving, but sad, because we won't have >>>> anyone >>>> > to blame. >>>> >>>> Maybe it's time we looked inwards too rather than finding an easy >>>> outside mark to blame? >>>> >>>> I am sure there are more who hold dissenting views and this is a good >>>> time to air them. We can all learn from them. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Warm regards, >> >> Ashwin Baindur >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
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